Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

Makes sense I suppose. I didn’t consider their Chinese branch, but yeah, all the more reason to fire the guy right? If you are working for a company that is doing international business you are probably going to get fired if you trash one of the countries yeah?

No, it isn’t.

Thank you for pointing that out. I wasn’t aware it was in doubt, but the reinforcement makes me feel warm and tingly.

Ah, so that’s what naïvete looks like :slight_smile: I had forgotten.

… Yes I suppose. (?)

You know what’s really ironic, i used to hate China when I was young, I used to think America should just nuke the Chinese commies to oblivion, but these days I see things a little differently, there’s a bigger picture here…we must not agitate China too much as it could lead to world war 3 etc

Wrong. San Francisco was known as “codename Babylon” by the Soviets, and was the target of propaganda through media for 6 decades. It doesn’t matter if Reagan and Wayne are from there, or even that the state government was heavily Republican, Hollywood has been infested with Communists since the 20s. They held Congressional hearings, the House Un-American Activities Committee, that exposed trade unions and media organizations as being Communist thralls. Ronald Reagan was one of the voices that spoke against the Communists in Hollywood, in fact.

Hah. That’s a good joke. By that definition, there is no “true” Communism. Truth is, Socialist states always leech off of Capitalism, or are at least allow utterly state-censored versions of some of it, just to survive. It was true for the Soviets, with their giant black market, it’s true for the People’s Republic with them forcing a “censored” version of goods in, and it is true of other forms of Socialism like the NSDAP and Italian PNF.

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I bring good news:

Blizzard’s actions, and the corresponding response by players, are not going to trigger World War 3.

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Oh god, not this laughable argument again.

A portion* of US foreign* debt
… in government issued bonds
… which will be shamelessly defaulted on if they so much as sneeze in our direction

Why don’t you have a look at China’s debt? (It rhymes with “twenty two trillion”) Or the portion of its GDP reliant on exports to the US? Not to mention Hong Kong and Japan (which, in turn, fuel further exports to the US).

Maybe on iZombies desperate for their next device upgrade.

Otherwise, we have them by the short hairs. They would be buried in a trade war, and their military prospects are even less promising. PRC’s power projection is vaporware reliant solely on American cash and indifference.

No, they dont. The US government owns most US debt. Second place goes to american companies and citizens.

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I unsubscribed. Not putting up with a communist loving company.

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Then why are you outraged? Someone got fired for publicly airing personal beliefs on their employers platform when their employer would rather not take a political stance?

I feel for the people of Hong Kong. I hope they reach a resolution to their problems with as little violence as possible.

I also hope the U.S. government stays out of their business. It isn’t our job to tell China how to govern their country. That is for the people of China to decide and figure out on their own.

By their actions, and subsequent press releases, their employer took a political stance.

This is true. However, this protest isn’t targeted at the Chinese for being communist; it’s targeted a Blizzard, for bending the knee.

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You know, you’re right. As of this spring China still owns almost 2 trillion of US debt, (still highest foreign debt holder) which is considerably down from 2016 when in fact, China owned most of US debt.

What has happened between 2016 and now to reduce China’s share of US debt? Does anyone know?

Interestingly, since Ronnie Reagan started the “practice” of looting the SS trust fund, that has become the single biggest portion of the debt. Maybe looting the trust all these years wasn’t such a good idea, eh?

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Ok, what did you want Blizzard to do? How is Blizzard supposed to resolve the political climate in China?

yet blizzard does nothing about the people runningcasino/gambling games IN the live game which is against the TOS — but those young adults sign made china very angry and the in game casino was nothing i guess in comparison – yeah keep it up blizz because those sounds you keep hearing are your players hitting the unsub button.

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Netease != Blizzard in any way, shape, or form.

Why do people keep posting this?

Although i agree with the OP do we need more of these posts?

Seriously the community team should delet all these polital posts.

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Because it’s patently obvious net ease and the general Chinese market is having a very clear effect on Activision despite netease only having a 5% ownership? I mean I dunno why you think this is confusing.

You’re the one who is confused. Netease is not the Chinese company with a 5% stake in Acti - Tencent is.

They’re not. They could, however, grow a sack and choose “principles” over “money”.

Still doesn’t matter. Tencent is still Chinese, and the overall market and govt is having a very clear effect, and it’s an effect I do NOT appreciate. I’ve lived in Taiwan, I have seen how the Chinese govt acts first hand towards other powers and Blizz caving is disgusting.

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The Weibo post was made by Netease - not Blizzard. Blizzard did not post that. No subsidiary of Blizzard posted that. No company that Blizzard can control posted that. Netease, the 10b/year Chinese internet and gaming company who licenses the WoW IP/Code from Blizzard and runs it in China, posted it.

The apology being referenced here is from Netease, not Blizzard. Netease, the Chinese licensee of Warcraft, not a Blizzard/Activision subsidiary. Netease, the Chinese internet company with a 33b US market cap, which does not take orders on what to post from Blizzard. That’s not Blizzard’s Weibo account - it’s the Netease account.

If you don’t believe me, or the translator then go find the Weibo post on your own, and get your own translation of the account owner.

If you have some actual apology from Blizzard to China let’s see it.

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