Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

lol Prove you wrong? Prove yourself right.

My guess is you’re speaking with about as much firsthand information as I am.

My guess is also that the Hong Kong police, presently doing the bidding of the PRC, are effectively PRC police.

Prove me wrong!

They provoked him to do it.

Please don’t compare corporations to dogs. Dogs are good bois who only want your love and companionship.

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which, as others have annualized, is from the China branch office. so the one in charge their, is locally from China. They personally have an obligation to their country.

Might as well have been “for the Horde” even though its like Sylvanas is in control.

Corporations with binding contracts with China are not about to breach any provisions in the name of “fighting tyranny.”

First, they have no power to “fight” tyranny – Blizzard is a contractor in China and has no authority or ability to “bring China to its knees.”

Blizzard isn’t going to jeopardize itself by becoming adversarial with a contracting partner. Such a foolish move could put a lot of people out of work and Blizzard out of business. Sorry, but money talks and morality is preached in places of worship. Sometimes, they combine forces and the result is tyranny. It happens.

But getting yourself sued into oblivion is not an effective way to combat it.

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then the ping low from 180 ms to 179

then blizzard acted correctly

No. The burden of proof is on you. Your claim is that the police are not safe. I’m saying that’s not true.

– unless we can just make any claim we want and have no responsibility as to its accuracy. That sounds like something you might see on a Blizzard forum, no?

China kicks out blizzard for daring to stand against them then they fund a game studio called Typhoon and make Abovewatch and Planet of War and Art?

I know (hugs) Your right. I’m just trying to lighten the mood by being quirky. But on a serious note all this effort is in the wrong forum. You need to bring this passion to a place it can actually do good.

The people here are attempting to escape reality, not embrace it.

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With wonderful things like:

  1. Forcing loot boxes and mobile gaming down our throats.
  2. Censoring all showing of skin on female characters to appease Chinese censors (such as Jaina’s Hero art in Hearthstone).
  3. Taking out characters from their games in order to appease Chinese racism (Tyrael and the Witch Doctor).

Finally someone with working brain on this forums!

Technically speaking Shpantzen made the claim that the PRC police are not safe, you made the claim that the hong kong police are safe. Which is an entirely different claim, and not a denying of initial claim, the burden of proof falls on you. The claim you made is separate from the claim he made, you made that specific claim first, burden of proof is yours for that specific claim.

Yeah I like Velara, what’s sad though is that me and him/her say one thing that’s defensive to Blizzard’s decision, people automatically assuming we are from China lol.

One rain drop raises the ocean. If all American corporations said, we arent going to do business with a country that engages in genocide, or is actively attempting to subjugate people who want freedom, China would be brought to heel.

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He’s also an activist. They’re probably not safe for activists. I’ll concede to that point.

I’m not an activist. Let’s assume I’m just here for the loot. What sort of… app could I use to help me with that?

Finally, I mean if the burden of proof falls on the first person who says things and since most people who said things for the first time are dead, we can literally say anything and expect it to be accepted as true, no?

Can’t prove something when you’re dead, so that’s just the end of the discussion.

Now I know why noone from blizzard devs read this forums. People here living in different reality.

Almost 9000 posts.

In all honesty Grogzor, by that argument I shouldn’t do business with a single American citizen because America has engaged in wars in Middle East that I simply don’t agree with.

If that ever happens (and it won’t) it won’t be China. China can do more damage to the US than US businesses can do to China.

China owns almost all US national debt. Getting shirty with China would have a substantial and devastating backlash on all Americans.

Come back to reality Grog. The plain fact is $ walks and politics is just talk and empty promises.

I do sincerely love your idealism and your obviously loving heart.

This. China is utterly reliant on Western corporate money just to function. Without our brands and goods, they have nothing but cheap knockoffs and slave labor. It would cause riots there if we pulled out. All it takes is a little bit of backbone to force those Communist tyrants into the dirt.