Blizz, Hong Kong, Freedom of speech, lets have an Adult discussion

Hi. Remember me?
So it’s been 10 days and here we are.
Bad troll 0/10 AND -100 social credit points.
DStarts to ‘skal’ but then sets the :beer: down and replaces it with…
JUSTICE FOR HONG KONG!
:hong_kong:
Free Tibet!
Free the Uighurs!

Bring it.

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well that’s what it seems it like and apparently Blizzard is more than eager to accommodate them

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Oh ya, no way they take a stand on an issue outside nonsense like banning the OK sign from Overwatch broadcasts or inane platitudes about inclusion and tolerance.

Any spine they used to have was harvested for cash a long time ago…

The only corporate decision that Blizzard has made that I don’t like is firing employees.

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I’m amused that these two statements were made by the same person, within the space of 32 minutes.

Also, at this point, the only purpose this thread serves is as an easy way to scroll through 500+ posts a day to maintain TL3. When it dies its inevitable death, we’ll be forced to go back to mindlessly scrolling the high elf and vulpera ‘discussions’.

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I think I will try and explain myself…

There’s a difference between feeling offended, and feeling unsafe. See, I don’t even care what people say on this forum, as the evidence that any of you will be a direct physical threat to me is virtually nil. Therefore I am happy for people to spout whatever opinions they want whether they be pro-China pro-Hong Kong or whatever.

It’s just hard to explain, in the real life situation you feel people’s energy and stuff, and online its easier as you aren’t emotionally concerned about what’s being said as you’ve got no attachment to any of these people on the other side of the screen. But in real life if you feel someone grouchy and grumpy come onto a train or bus muttering swear words and giving off that low-vibe energy you really feel it and makes you feel incredibly unsafe.

I don’t know about you, but to me safety/security comes first above all other concerns, as you can’t work on other areas in your life if you don’t feel safe

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PLAYABLE HIGH…
Catches herself just in time
Sorry: visceral reaction. Carry on with the thread’s subject.
nothing more to see here, folks!
:grin:

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Having read many of your posts, I feel a sense of a lack of perspective here.
There is no way you, or anyone else, can legit construe

with your over-the-top support for the vicious, evil and utterly draconian practices of the communist chinese. ‘‘I’m making you safe’’ is the excuse used by every tyrant, to excuse every excess.

If you really do feel that way, that your ability to feel ‘safe’ justifies such measures, then you need serious help.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom - go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

Samuel Adams

:hong_kong:

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Disagree. In fact, Blizzard disagrees too which is why they cut back their punishment. You must not know what’s going on at all.

This stupid thread is still going on?

Blizzard. It’s hard to keep loving you after all this… I mean… You and your games have been important to many of our lives. You were there for me when I needed an outlet in High School with StarCraft and Broodwar. You were there for me with WoW when I love my only biologically related brother. You were there to give me a distraction after numerous painful breakings of my heart. Relationship after potential relationship that failed miserably, some by fault of my own… You helped me keep pushing on in life. After all the pain I suffered, giving me a distraction to help me deal with the pain.

You gave me outlets to help me deal with the burdens of life.

But given everything… You made some serious missteps, and committed to mistakes you’ve been criticized for time and again. From your unwarranted nerfs to subtlety rogues, to the undeserved buffs to feral druids, through your seeming hellbent intent to nerf every class and spec I truly enjoy playing. And that always left me with a lingering hope “Maybe they’ll realize they screwed up and fix it! Maybe they’ll reverse the changes, nerf ferals, and buff subtlety”, and then you do this whole thing with siding with China.

The game itself is a punch I can roll with. I’ve taken that lump more times than I can remember nor bother to even care… You axed features that I never even got to try out in the alpha or beta for Legion. You let me down time and again, but in a game, I can deal with it, because I grew up in the lifespans of the NES, SNES, and N64. I’m a gamer, always have been.

It’s just when you chose China’s censorship over freedom of speech… You took to an all too real turn.

I can shrug off suspensions in the past for trying to out foe after foe for their irrational behavior. I can even shrug off the silences even with bearing a dwindling grudge that will fade over time. Your biggest mistakes were in coming up with a mobile game, and then coming to China’s aid instead of simply saying you did not support political views, and leave an empty gesture of punishment which would be kept quiet.

You really screwed up Blizzard… You make it hard for me to love you anymore… It’s like I’ve been married to you, and all you did was take from me. What little you gave, it didn’t do well to cover your next mistake.

The erroneous decisions in buffs and nerfs, I can deal with that, you just needed only to fix it.

But this whole issue with China, the mobile “game”… It feels like you’re handing divorce papers, after what could be best described as a rough marriage which led to 4 beautiful children ending suddenly… It’s hard to keep loving you Blizzard… It’s just not easy anymore… I’ve lost friends and family, and you were there to help distract me. Now? It feels like you’re divorcing us all… And it feels like a huge betrayal.

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I just met her and she’s been wild. What’s that thing she does with her third tentacle? You taught her that?

Wow that was a lot of text for CHINA/BLIZZ BAD!!!

You couldn’t put it in the mega thread?

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Hello Sunday, eh? :cookie:

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As amusing as that sounds, I didn’t teach Blizz that… That was an old trick I never knew about… I’m not keen on it… I prefer to go in deep, and feel rewarded for my efforts.

My marriage analogy is basically that I’m the husband, and Blizzard was the wife. I’ve played these games for what? 20+ years now? Makes it hard to love Blizz as a whole since they became political.

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Blizzard? Hardly knew her.

Madness is eternal…

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that moment when you wanna talk about serious stuff but you still salty for getting rekt by a feral druid

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This is more about how Blizzard went from just gaming, to turning way too political.

I didn’t bother to mention the details about how Blizzard has been writing some traits that didn’t need to be specifically noted, like sexuality.

Tracer is canonically a lesbian. Probably blizzard’s way of trying to shy away from the Tracer x Winston bestiality you see in rule34 when Overwatch was even announced… But it’s a character trait that felt more political as time went on, even if we never see it in-game.

Soldier 76’s sexuality from a fan comic made canon… Didn’t need to be made canon. Blizzard could have made Soldier 76 into a pervert to lighten up his personality, or fix the soda can from his summer skin so it wouldn’t be a diet soda(Seriously, diet sodas use artificial sweeteners which have been linked to your body retaining fat, so no matter how much you eat, that diet soda is gonna make your body retain every bit of fat because of medical reasons). Soldier 76 didn’t need his sexuality explored.

Moira… Okay she’s an exception, she has a history of genetic manipulation, and rewrote her entire genetic code, which must have taken YEARS at the very LEAST to rewrite physically… Even with CRISPR data, it likely took a LONG time to finalize the rewritten code! Someone who can rewrite their own code, even using yourself as a guinneapig for your own experiments… You get a pass because if you succeeded with no adverse effects, you’re pretty good on that…

I mean, saying Genji and Mercy is canonical is cute, and fits with a common trope of romantic storytelling, where the doctor falls for their patient, and the patient falls for their savior. That I can understand. It’s a romance writing trope.

Your sexuality need only be implied, not ham-fisted into your face as if it was their only major trait in lore.

Thrall, okay, we had seen for YEARS that people paired him and Jaina, they made a cute couple. Then we got Thrall and Aggra paired canonically. I mean, in one case, it could be seen as political, or as a stance against inter-racial marriage. On the other, it could just be seen as Orcish tradition for Orc to marry Orc.

It’s become hard to love Blizzard after everything. I mean… Patching balances to keep people off-balance in PVP so one class isn’t dominating(We’ve seen ferals become way too OP in PVP, come on! Between their bleeds and opener damage alone, it was balanced in Legion where Ferals were forced to a stat template that kept them from insta-killing someone in better gear!). We still see Guardian druids able to hold the flag with minimal support in BGs, we see Paladins able to hold their own in Ret and Holy even with the damage boost in CTF matches.

I can live with the gameplay tweaks as long as the devs know where they went wrong, and how it adversely effected the game as a whole. Even bringing back Legion’s stat templates for when you flag for PVP, that would make sense to mitigate the damage and keep PVP fair at least.

But Blizzard has been growing a bit too political as of late, and we didn’t see it coming when they unveiled the biggest dumpster fire ever in their mobile “game”. Games don’t belong on phones. They belong on dedicated hardware.

For all I know, this could all be because of Activision’s interference screwing it all up. Whoever is running Blizzard and chose to side with China, that’s a step too far. You’re an American company, act like it! If you don’t like politics, just say “We’d rather keep politics out!”, be like Nintendo!

Nintendo deleted a bunch of maps from Super smash Bros Ultimate online because they were politically charged. the maps were transgender flags. Nintendo’s response is that the transgender flag maps were removed because of how political the flag was, and how Nintendo aims to keep politics out of their games. Smart decision to get rid of the politically charged stages.

Blizzard should have just said “We won’t be political”, and stick to it. We play games to get away from politics.

Feels more like the forums have become like Facebook. Politics are taking over where we don’t want it to. We need to all look at what we’ve become, take a step back, look at the mess, and realize the mistakes. Blizzard has made it’s fair share of mistakes, but these recent years have been the kind that require a massive bandaid… We’re talking the level of Marcus Reed’s little rampage in the beginning of True Crime: New York City.

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You get away from politics by PUNISHING people who use your platform. How is this so hard for people.

Just another melodramatic post, add it to the pile.

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