Blizz fix the New pvp meta

Its why i suggest just increasing the deserter debuff. Everyone else’s suggestions deviate more from how classic was.

I have High Warlord on 3 chars. I have entered less then 20 matches that have already started. Just leave yourself if you have an issue with it and go make yourself some good or walk the dog.

But I also just disagree with the 7 minute point. The people leaving at that time and you joining in aren’t the same people leaving because of a turtle… That starts more at the 13-15 minute marker then grows the longer it takes. Unless its a full commit by the other team to make it a turtle where 25 people clash into the other raid on purpose. Only seen it happen like 2 times though.

The people who leave around the 5-7 minute marker are the people who were actually afk since the start and get kicked out for being away. And there is many legitimate reasons irl you might forget you joined an AV at the very start that only someone with no life would disagree with.

And the few that actually abuse this, they do get an increase penalty. Its called getting a temp ban. I know many people who have gotten banned from AV afking.

The other actual reasons people leave that early are.

  • Getting the AV Armor buff. More for speedrunners.
  • Getting DMF when its the opposite factions control.
  • They finish their honor for the week.
  • Mages making their waters for raid.
  • Teleporting a friend to a city.

There is a lot of design flaws.

Here is what you do, it is really simple.

Make pieces require rank, gold and marks.

You could do anything like that and improve the system over what Anniversary PVP rewards are.

If all you need to do is maximize your honor per hour and nothing else matters, you will have problems like this.

Make it 7 minutes and blast both teams with 2k honor at the end and we have a deal.

There’s a very easy way to prevent this from happening, if you queue as a group, the chances of you entering a bg as a fill in are almost 0%.

If your goal is to farm honor, make friends, talk to people after you finish a game, be social.

The easiest remedy to the ranking system is to just buff AB/WSG honor gains so people don’t have to do AV outside of AV weekend. AV just happened to be the best bg in terms of honor/hr and the worst bg in terms of fun/hr

Can alliance not kill people in towers or is it only horde that possesses that ability?

Its that a shaman can be on the ground and shoot a chain lightning and instantly kill who gets hit. The towers are too confined unlike the bunkers, there’s many ways to avoid casters in them. but horde towers are like fish in a barrel.

With very good pre naxx spell power gear (elemental fury legs are my one naxx caster item) a flask, greater arcane elixir, wizard oil, and using the bwl shaman trinket (no power infusion) my max CL crit is 3300. I guess that might one shot 3 low level rep grinders in a tower. So yes, in that niche situation where someone stands in LoS, instead of just walking inside, allowing the lightning to chain, someone may die if they have a 3k health pool.

I have a level 55 shaman in green nature damage gear and have done it myself with less prep.

So your level 55 “one shot” some other lvl 55s or 60s with at least r10 gear?

Damnnnnn. You casting the max rank, bro?

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No. I bind all my keys to windfury totem and frost shock.

You overestimate how many people are rank 10 on ally.

Oh, anniversary? No comment on that.

I’m speaking of era where aq40 is the minimum gear level of alliance in bgs.

Leaving a game inside of a ggame to play another game inside the game isnt playing the game?

That’s why you get the coward debuff.
You fled from battle.

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