How so? Like it’s just an additional thing that will wear over time on alliance populations. It will just continue the slow bleed of people to horde for people to play with. 4 days ain’t going to show jack.
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I was saying the Alliance was highly impacted by the loss of Squeektoy.
:T
I beg to differ. 
On a more serious note, if this does become a part of tbcc, I’ll likely follow Squeek out the door. They will have ruined tbcc for me. I stuck around to watch alliance die a slow death once. I don’t want to watch it a second time.
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Ouch!
I understand. That is important feedback if this change will cause you to stop enjoying/playing the game. Everyone is so focused on the Horde players. We should also bring up how this change is affecting Alliance players.
Oh wow, they are actually reading the feedback and moderating the thread in real-time 
I refreshed the page and it went from “34” replies to “27” replies, so you can tell there is a real human being keeping an eye on it.
They’re not messing around, probably a response to all the threats from Alliance posters that said they would “flood” or “storm” the thread in protest.
EDIT: accusations of “they’ve gone full Soviet Union” starting to fly, apparently they’re deleting any posts that are criticism of the change - while leaving up posts praising the change
EDIT 2: thread just went from 43 replies to 40 replies, they deleting criticism fast 
Here’s a post that just got deleted
I get the feeling they’re checking if the people leaving feedback have queued up for bgs yet (after the same-faction changes went into effect).
I don’t think it’s an “if”
There no way they can give this out for 4 days and take it away. They may shut it down temporarily to fix things like /yell being readable on both sides, but this is here to stay.
Give me my moment of optimistic hope, Debbie Downer!
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That’s the current plan though.
This new matchmaking system is gone with the next weekly reset, so Blizzard can analyze the data/feedback they gathered.
They are only going to take it away for a time, it’s as good as good as a done deal in regards to it being a permanent thing. Horde are loving it. That will outweigh the other considerations.
Tsataga is right, it will only go away for a brief time needed to fix some of the technical issues. That is, unless they can hotfix it. I don’t believe it will go away even temporarily if said fixes are easy enough.
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Well, we have ~4 days to come up with a persuasive argument to change their minds.
I’m not the smart one though.
If they can’t look at historical data to see what ignoring faction imbalance causes, I think we have no hope of convincing them this time will end the same way.
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I imagine it’s not just weeks of horde cries in the forums about long queue times. There was almost certainly a drop in subs as well citing that as a reason. What does one do when they see their numbers dropping? They panic of course.
So they did what anyone would do when they panic, they made a rash decision without regards to long term consequences. In the short term this will help those numbers, or at least end up a push depending on how many horde return because of this vs. how many ally just up and quit altogether. So they can probably breathe a little easier for now.
Long term is there will be only one faction participating in bgs/arenas for the most part. Alliance on PvE servers who only PvE will not notice much of anything. Sadly, too many alliance will either transfer servers or go horde. Not enough for them to see a high enough drop in subs. At least not right away.
The game itself ofc, is gonna be crap for people like me so I’m left out.
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The ironic part is, how many of us here that are actively playing tbcc have actually hit 70 on their first character? It’s seems a rushed change considering I doubt we’re alone in not having reached max level yet. People are leveling, getting attuned, farming rep and aren’t to the point of farming bgs all evening. But it’s a change, that once implemented, cannot be taken back without massive clapback.
I think they needed to give it some more time to get a better idea on how much faction imbalance was actually going to impact bgs.
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After reading some of the feedback threads… um… feedback I’m just super disillusioned in general now.
Im not gonna quit (for now), because I’m not even 70 yet and I’m not going to be able to test it for a while yet.
The game definitely feels different now though.
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Thats quite literally the exact reason they’re doing this.
46% alliance across servers 56% horde. 1hr+ queue times for Horde.
One faction is not partipating.
I really cant see any solutions to that problem.
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Let’s call their so called feedback thread what it was created to be - an echo chamber. With the rate they were deleting alliance comments, it was pretty obvious what they are looking for.
Me, too. I have no motivation to even play the game atm.
Because it is. This is not classic tbc. This is some mutation they’ve created.
That doesn’t really say what you think it says. Those statistics come from raid logs. Anyone who isn’t raiding or doesn’t upload their logs is not counted. I mean, in classic, on this character, I did not raid after P2 so I would not be included in any of those statistics and yet I spent 75% of my game time inside a bg and players can acquire PvP gear much easier in tbcc than they could in classic.
I think players are reading what they want to from those statistics to justify or criticize a terrible decision by Blizzard.
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They aren’t participating in large part because they believe they are at a disadvantage. It doesn’t matter how big that disadvantage is, it’s there and they believe it’s too much. The solution to that was mirroring racials. Whatever one horde race got, an alliance race should get the exact same ones (plural, no mixing them up either).
That’s the solution, always has been.
Make them believe they got a fair shot and more would give it a go. Would horde still have 10-20 minute queues. Most likely, but that’s something anyone can live with. There will still be more horde players.
THIS solution is going to kill off all pvp servers for good. Only masochists will still roll ally on those server in the long run. I’m sure Grob, my server, will hold out ok for awhile. Not feeling like putting any more time investing into something I don’t think is going to last.
This solution probably helps more players than it hurts. I’m just one of the one’s that it does. I’ve never unsubbed for as much as a day from mid Wrath til now. I came damn close in BfA but held on until Classic because I know how I am. When I quit things, I quit things for good. And I’ve quit things far more addicting than WoW.
I’ve decided to keep my stuff though. The thought of everything I’ve collected being stored away in some old section of the servers, I imagine block chains of 1s and 0s covered in cobwebs, it feels like a poetic ending 
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You’ll be missed @squeektoy.
Sorry I never got the chance to BG with you this go round.
Auf Wiedersehen friendo.
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majority of the horde were pushing for this solution and preferred it over faction changes.
in the end people chose horde because it’s a rerelease of a game everyone knows what’s best, people weren’t going to mass xfer alliance for free because of queue times, they’d quit before they did that.
this is what happens when you’re playing a game from the past.
personally i’m more surprised they didn’t do faction changes for the money they’d make off it but ye.
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