The exact line is this:
King Arthas: Are you still upset that I stole Jaina from you, Kael?
Prince Kael: You've taken everything I ever cared for, Arthas. Vengeance is all I have left.
It happens when you assault Kael's base in the final mission of WCIII.
As much as I loved Arthas' old VA, I think Patrick Seitz is going to be able to give us more of a convincing change from Paladin Arthas to Death Knight Arthas.
I'm also wondering if generic hero units will get distinct models from unique hero characters. Or are all paladins gonna look like Uther again.
I'm also wondering if generic hero units will get distinct models from unique hero characters. Or are all paladins gonna look like Uther again.
Its gonna be fine, just some inconsistencies fleshed out, like Anasterian Sunstrider, maybe we will see Lorthemar and Liadrin cameos after Sylvanas dies.
Another one would be explaining that several sentinels dove after Tyrande when she the bridge she was stanting on collapsed into the river arevass, explaining why she had sentinels when we found her 2 missions later. Maybe we will finally use chimaeras on the night elf campaign?
Another one would be explaining that several sentinels dove after Tyrande when she the bridge she was stanting on collapsed into the river arevass, explaining why she had sentinels when we found her 2 missions later. Maybe we will finally use chimaeras on the night elf campaign?
11/05/2018 10:30 PMPosted by IvalesseAs much as I loved Arthas' old VA, I think Patrick Seitz is going to be able to give us more of a convincing change from Paladin Arthas to Death Knight Arthas.
I'm also wondering if generic hero units will get distinct models from unique hero characters. Or are all paladins gonna look like Uther again.
Distinct, Uther and Arthas have different models from the multiplayer paladin
11/05/2018 10:54 PMPosted by Sundenna11/05/2018 10:30 PMPosted by IvalesseAs much as I loved Arthas' old VA, I think Patrick Seitz is going to be able to give us more of a convincing change from Paladin Arthas to Death Knight Arthas.
I'm also wondering if generic hero units will get distinct models from unique hero characters. Or are all paladins gonna look like Uther again.
Distinct, Uther and Arthas have different models from the multiplayer paladin
I think he was referring to the fact that their head model is all the same, but we have already seen the regular Paladin with a sort of buzz-cut that looks nothing like the Uther model. So I can rightfully say that no, they won't look like him.
I think that aside from some parts of before the storm Golden has done fine.
I think she makes herself a target with her tweets, but I don’t really get the hate for her. She’s better than Knaak.
I think she makes herself a target with her tweets, but I don’t really get the hate for her. She’s better than Knaak.
11/05/2018 11:45 PMPosted by EchoriI think that aside from some parts of before the storm Golden has done fine.
I think she makes herself a target with her tweets, but I don’t really get the hate for her. She’s better than Knaak.
She dared to write the Story Forum's waifu in a negative light.
There's something poetic about posters complaining that Golden ruined Kael'thas by making him a loser with an unrequited crush on Jaina...
...and come to find out that it was already in the story around what they proclaim as the golden (not that one) age of Warcraft storytelling.
Hey, what quality are those [Rose Tinted Shades of Nostalgia]? And where do they drop?
...and come to find out that it was already in the story around what they proclaim as the golden (not that one) age of Warcraft storytelling.
Hey, what quality are those [Rose Tinted Shades of Nostalgia]? And where do they drop?
11/06/2018 07:01 AMPosted by RothironThere's something poetic about posters complaining that Golden ruined Kael'thas by making him a loser with an unrequited crush on Jaina...
...and come to find out that it was already in the story around what they proclaim as the golden (not that one) age of Warcraft storytelling.
Hey, what quality are those [Rose Tinted Shades of Nostalgia]? And where do they drop?
You know, reflecting back on it, it's an incredibly random thing to get thrown in to WCIII.
Blizzard Dev: So, this is the last time Arthas and Kael'thas comes face to face. Arthas destroyed Kael's home, defiled the Sunwell, and forced the blood elves to abandon morality just to survive. What will the last few things the two will say to one another?
Blizzard Dev2: How about a never before mentioned attraction Kael had for Jaina, and Arthas mocking him that he stole her. Probably the most personal thing we could make their last convesation about.
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Even better, Kael might've referenced it in passing, saying he wanted payback for Quel'thalas "and other insults."11/06/2018 08:25 AMPosted by XimothyYou know, reflecting back on it, it's an incredibly random thing to get thrown in to WCIII.
Blizzard Dev: So, this is the last time Arthas and Kael'thas comes face to face. Arthas destroyed Kael's home, defiled the Sunwell, and forced the blood elves to abandon morality just to survive. What will the last few things the two will say to one another?
Blizzard Dev2: How about a never before mentioned attraction Kael had for Jaina, and Arthas mocking him that he stole her. Probably the most personal thing we could make their last convesation about.
That's almost literally arson, murder, and jaywalking. lol
Why do people bring up Lord of the Clans as some great story by Golden? I even saw someone on this forum call Thrall a Golden character.... I mean really people???
11/06/2018 08:58 AMPosted by ArazlokWhy do people bring up Lord of the Clans as some great story by Golden? I even saw someone on this forum call Thrall a Golden character.... I mean really people???
I believe it is to push back about the idea that Golden can not write about the Horde (iirc she also wrote Rise if the Horde) as an entity. *Shrug*
The counter of course is that these events were a different incarnation of the Horde than currently exists.
11/06/2018 09:04 AMPosted by Saiphas11/06/2018 08:58 AMPosted by ArazlokWhy do people bring up Lord of the Clans as some great story by Golden? I even saw someone on this forum call Thrall a Golden character.... I mean really people???
I believe it is to push back about the idea that Golden can not write about the Horde (iirc she also wrote Rise if the Horde) as an entity. *Shrug*
The counter of course is that these events were a different incarnation of the Horde than currently exists.
No the actual counter to this argument is mostly everything and main plot of Lord of the Clans was already established in Warcraft Adventures: Lord of the Clans.
The only thing Golden added were of course her romance BS.
Where a snarky Clancy Brown Thrall escaped by launching himself over Durnholde's walls with a catapult, assassinated hookah smoking Deathwing by messing with the fire breathing organs (after getting inside him using a cow), and meeting bearded lady dwarves?11/06/2018 09:10 AMPosted by ArazlokNo the actual counter to this argument is mostly everything and main plot of Lord of the Clans was already established in Warcraft Adventures: Lord of the Clans.
Yeah, I'm certain nothing much changed adapting that story.
11/06/2018 09:10 AMPosted by Arazlok11/06/2018 09:04 AMPosted by Saiphas...
I believe it is to push back about the idea that Golden can not write about the Horde (iirc she also wrote Rise if the Horde) as an entity. *Shrug*
The counter of course is that these events were a different incarnation of the Horde than currently exists.
No the actual counter to this argument is mostly everything and main plot of Lord of the Clans was already established in Warcraft Adventures: Lord of the Clans.
The only thing Golden added were of course her romance BS.
You are absolutely right that the plot was established by adventures, however the novel gives much more context and definition. Just like Rise of the Horde did.
Plus, you know, less evil dragons smoking hookahs.11/06/2018 09:21 AMPosted by SaiphasYou are absolutely right that the plot was established by adventures, however the novel gives much more context and definition. Just like Rise of the Horde did.
11/06/2018 09:10 AMPosted by ArazlokNo the actual counter to this argument is mostly everything and main plot of Lord of the Clans was already established in Warcraft Adventures: Lord of the Clans.
The only thing Golden added were of course her romance BS
I've seen the Lord of the Clans game, and there's a lot different;
-Thrall was to be executed, no great plan of Blackmoore to lead the Horde.
-He escaped via catapulting over the wall
-Meets Gazlowe and helped him repair his zeppelin
-Meets the Frostwolves and Nazgrel is a major character, becoming Thrall's "Blood Brother".
-Drek'thar had a son, some lore keeper of the clan. Frostwolf's home was called Frostwolf Town.
-Blackhand was going to be a "blood brother" along with Durotan and Orgrim.
-Rend and Maim were traitors who worked for Blackmoore. They also killed Durotan.
-The orcs were in an "Orc Reserve" rather than an interment camp
-The Warsong were also in the Reserve, rather than being free, and Grom had a pet black whelp named Singe.
-Zul'jin was a merchant for some reason
-Shamanism was vastly different, using scrolls, could turn into animals and could raise skeletons. This is because originally the orc's spiritual faith was going to be necromantic in nature.
-Thrall met Alextrasza who is kinda dark, not sure if outright evil, but getting there.
-Thrall killed Deathwing (who was smoking a hookah) and was Alex's son.
-Also killed some random Death Knight and Ogre Mage
-Kilrogg and Kargath were among the chieftains Thrall united, along with Orgirm, Drek'thar and Grom. Nazgrel was named Thrall's second in command.
-Had the support of Alextrasza's dragons when they attacked Blackmoore's keep, with orcs riding them.
-Thrall was named Warchief not by a dying Orgrim, but by gathering the Horde and proving himself.
-Orgrim didn't die, he leads the Blackrocks and pledged himself to Thrall.
-The game also had a lot more humour than most Warcraft games. Thrall cracked jokes, got into humourous situations like using a mop head as a wig to his pants getting caught on a ladder, he killed Deathwing by bear trapping his fire producing organ causing him to explode, defeated the DK and ogre mage by tricking them into doing something stupid, things like that. The book had a far more serious nature to it.
So, you know, a lot was different.
You missed the bearded lady dwarves, man.11/06/2018 09:41 PMPosted by XimothyI've seen the Lord of the Clans game, and there's a lot different;
-Thrall was to be executed, no great plan of Blackmoore to lead the Horde.
-He escaped via catapulting over the wall
-Meets Gazlowe and helped him repair his zeppelin
-Meets the Frostwolves and Nazgrel is a major character, becoming Thrall's "Blood Brother".
-Drek'thar had a son, some lore keeper of the clan. Frostwolf's home was called Frostwolf Town.
-Blackhand was going to be a "blood brother" along with Durotan and Orgrim.
-Rend and Maim were traitors who worked for Blackmoore. They also killed Durotan.
-The orcs were in an "Orc Reserve" rather than an interment camp
-The Warsong were also in the Reserve, rather than being free, and Grom had a pet black whelp named Singe.
-Zul'jin was a merchant for some reason
-Shamanism was vastly different, using scrolls, could turn into animals and could raise skeletons. This is because originally the orc's spiritual faith was going to be necromantic in nature.
-Thrall met Alextrasza who is kinda dark, not sure if outright evil, but getting there.
-Thrall killed Deathwing (who was smoking a hookah) and was Alex's son.
-Also killed some random Death Knight and Ogre Mage
-Kilrogg and Kargath were among the chieftains Thrall united, along with Orgirm, Drek'thar and Grom. Nazgrel was named Thrall's second in command.
-Had the support of Alextrasza's dragons when they attacked Blackmoore's keep, with orcs riding them.
-Thrall was named Warchief not by a dying Orgrim, but by gathering the Horde and proving himself.
-Orgrim didn't die, he leads the Blackrocks and pledged himself to Thrall.
So, you know, a lot was different.
At the bare minimum, there was concept art for them.
11/06/2018 09:46 PMPosted by RothironYou missed the bearded lady dwarves, man.
At the bare minimum, there was concept art for them
Oh they got in, one of them flirts with the disguised Thrall much to his disgust.
But along those lines, there was a ton of humour in the game. Silly situations, Thrall making jokes and sarcastic comments, getting caught on ladders, using mop heads as wigs, defeating him enemies in ridicious ways, etc.
The game was much sillier, the book had a way more serious tone to it.
11/06/2018 09:48 PMPosted by Ximothy11/06/2018 09:46 PMPosted by RothironYou missed the bearded lady dwarves, man.
At the bare minimum, there was concept art for them
Oh they got in, one of them flirts with the disguised Thrall much to his disgust.
But along those lines, there was a ton of humour in the game. Silly situations, Thrall making jokes and sarcastic comments, getting caught on ladders, using mop heads as wigs, defeating him enemies in ridicious ways, etc.
The game was much sillier, the book had a way more serious tone to it.
It was goofy in a PC adventure game way, but damn I loved hearing Peter Cullen as Doomhammer.