I still have no idea why you keep bringing up that no other tank can possibly do higher keys, that’s it’s impossible due to their toolkit, when literally 5 of the 6 tank specs have timed a +31.
How did they magically survive their +31 keys?
You mean feeling like you’re overgeared for what you’re doing? Yeah, it does that. If you raided in mists as a blood DK, it’s very similar. Handling health spikes has been par for the course since Vezax in Wrath.
Oh ya, for sure. To me the main problem is that the teir makes bdk unkillable while also making them significantly easier to play. The dmg was never really the big problem for me.
Im fine with classes being powerful if the gameplay is actually challenging to some degree.
I mean i think you are breaking your own argument here, BDK weren’t the top-notch tank i think since BFA Season 1 until now for Season 3 and 4 of Shadowlands and they had Purgatory all this time.
Or to put it another way, back in Season 3 for the first what? 3 or 4 weeks? Guardian Druid was the best Tank even ahead of BDK because of the ludicrous damage and healing the 4 PC Tier gave them. I really think that if they didn’t get nerfed, they would be ahead of BDK and again without Purgatory or something similar in the kit.
For example, Vengeance was by a mile the best Tank in Shadowlands Season 1 and they didn’t have Purgatory.
So yeah, i doubt Purgatory is the reason they are the best.
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More like Blood Shield being unbreakable and DKs basically taking no damage.
I agree. Every tank should be as strong as this season bdk or bfa s4 prot warrior
Ever since I started playing a Blood DK in WoD, I’ve seen the cycle where Blood DKs start off as among the worse tanks at the beginning of every expansion.
Then towards the end of each expansion, Blood DKs become super strong.
I get the impression it’s the fact they scale better than most tanks when it comes to gear upgrades + ilvls and borrowed power.
I’m no expert in game balancing, but I would think Blizzard could allow Blood DKs to start off as balanced but strong Tanks but reduce the power scaling as their gear ilvl increases.
Anyway just my opinion 
It has more to do with changes in late into the expansion that actually scaling. Check this post in WoWhead that explain this, is a bit old as it is from the last patch from BfA but the idea is the same today.
I’m so confused why you keep bringing them up.
Why is DK so good (according to top players)?
“Purgatory because it lets them survive insane one shots”.
Why is DK so good (according to everyone else)?
“Heals itself fully, has a lot of mitigation, and a lot of damage, not to mention things like grip that make pulls easier to gather up”.
I feel like the problem here is you are ignoring why BDKs are good before these 25+s. They have a lot going for them, Purgatory is the icing on the cake after a certain point.
Top players assume the other strengths is lower players fixate about more. Top players are saying why it’s so good at their level.
Purgatory is certainly not why BDK is good in a 10 or 15. It’s good but the value isn’t understood until way later, and the only reason it gets to the 30s is because the kit in S3-S4 (and stats) allowed it to get there in the first place.
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This man out here again with the dumpster fire takes then arguing about it for hours with literally everyone else.
Druids deserve meme seed purgatory / guardian spirit. Why priests got it is so odd.
Purgatory lets you game such meaty death strikes, and once you’re rolling you’re set until you rp starve, which by now is almost never. Purgatory does not fit the function of other tank classes, it would hardly help many of them since they would never intentionally use it like a bdk would.
I like BDK being immortal, they’re annoying to heal otherwise. But I’d rather brewmaster meta because they’re the most convenient tank for both my favorite heal specs and my favorite dps specs.
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why would priests lose a trinket slot if purg isn’t strong lmao like cmon guys LOL
tuft saves a brez, purg saves a brez.
why do tanks that ARENT blood dk getting 1 shot in MY keys that are only at 25s ish. like how does this happen, and how do u think that blood death knight is causing this LOL
and no - these people are not bad players they just legit get chunked to 15% from zulgamex.
give DH a full immunity cheat and are they better than bdk? you answer that. since a lot of u guys know better than yumy/zaelia.
Okay I usually just read forums and don’t comment but I have to ask… what is this obsession with purgatory? Other tanks have a cheat death (VDH, bear- albeit bears is scuffed compared to the former).
Every tank can actually have TWO cheat death/Purgs if they’re willing to throw some trinkets in that slot.
BDK isn’t broken because of Purg. The infinite DRW uptime (parry), and self-healing is the problem, not a talent that is solely taken to cover up for mistakes and improper play.
They don’t need a nerf you’re absolutely right. Their damage profile is very consistent and they do the most single target, but in large AOE they’re still getting beat out by VDH and Pally almost everytime.
I don’t think tank balance is terribly bad right now to be honest. I’ve gotten to 2.7k IO in S4 on two different tanks (one of which was VDH who has become a “laughing stock” for some reason). Almost every tank is capable of timing very high keys. Obviously the BDK is going to have the easiest time doing so but I do not agree with the notion that even in a 25 key you’re “gimping your group” by not playing one. I would only say that’s the case in 29-32 range which realistically the smallest fraction of the player base ever gets to.
They don’t have a “true” purg.
At higher key levels with insane scailing, they absolutely do not have a true “pugatory”
It saves 2 brezzes essentially bc the tank cheats, and the healer can put tuft on someone else. I swear this opinion isn’t insane lol
if a DH cheats - they get huge amounts of DR + a heal with meta right?
They just get globaled for next auto.
It’s different than essentially a 5 second purg.
No DH is getting globaled in meta in the key level we are doing. We’re around the same IO so I’ll just speak to the key levels we are at and I’m sure it is like that beyond as well.
Purg is not an “immunity” either.
Purg is absolutely a psuedo immunity, like it’s still 4ish seconds of an immunity.
u can say “oh but it’s an absorb” but like literally that’s just semantics. u can’t be damaged for 4 seconds and on mobs like zulgamex this is WAY more important than an HP cheat or a DR cheat
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Blood DKs entire kit is why it’s the best. At the highest levels, purg is most definitely the biggest, but not sole offender. It’s literally cheating.
All tanks should have it but I’m wasting my breath because fotm is very obviously intentional by blizzard.
It’s most likely improper play on my part but man, tanking zulgamux is not fun. Even in modest keys.
It’s whatever. It’s just their time to shine right now. Prot warrior will just take their place in DF S1.
This is my point - like purg is the best passive the game has ever seen ever. ppl like to argue that it’s not that important BUT I SWEAR i’m not wrong about this.
anything saving brezzes is op
edit: “BUT Its NoT An ImmuNITY” like dude it’s an immunity just bc it doesn’t specifically say that like yea it it’s an immunity even if it’s an absorb. it’s 5 seconds without dmg
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Every spec except mine is trash to me
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