BC Timewalking Overtuned

I disagree. Check literally EVERY MMO in existence. A power progression path is evident, and it’s done to give the sense that you are progressing and what you do is meaningful. It’s not a marketing tactic,it’s how it should be. In fact, level scaling and buffing content that shouldn’t be hard is exactly that, to prevent players from gaining proper power progression and keep them grounded where they want them to be to give fake longetivity and make them play more. In fact, what you described better fits not only scaling,but many of the systems implemented during legion/BFA, like titanforging, a endless/ long grind to keep boosting something and such. Nowadays you are no longer eventually done with a tier and the gear process often mimics a casino in being lucky enough with TF for example

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Sounds more like mop TW was undertuned.

Anyways, BC TW are Heroic dungeons, and similar to Cata heroic dungeons, were brutal, TW isn’t meant to be free loot, but a step in the past for a familiar experience of what used to be current content.

BC and especially cata heroics, were designed to be difficult, adds had large health pools, larger damage, and bosses in BC flat out hurt hard as hell, while cata had a lot more 1 shot mechanics.

Embrace what once was, as that’s the whole point of TW.

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Go do what everyone else does who wants to succeed; build a TIME WALKING SET. I just shake my head when I read threads like this because building such a set basically just entails you running SoO and gemming all the gear you get. It isn’t difficult to do.

I tank myself (DK), and when I do, in time walking, I will pull more dps than most players. I mean, I will CRUSH people, simply because they did not bother even TRYING to prepare.

In BT this past week, I had to stop dps several times and just stand there because the other tank was not prepared to deal with the kind of aggro I was outputting.

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There’s nothing wrong with BC TW dungeons. If you’re having trouble with trash, try this simple trick that drives developers crazy. It’s called CC. I know, it’s something that was recently added to the game so not many people know about it.

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About time Blizzard turns the dial up. Easy to get 390 from WQs and WFs, something needs to change.

Yeah TW set is great, cool as a demo lock cause all I gotta do is pop on the two Demonic tyrant legendaries from legion and I get like an 80% uptime on him so I do stupid amounts of damage.

Thought of building a tier set around it, but hard choices to make, y’know.

I don’t get why your post doesn’t have 20 likes.

They have killed the sense of power progression in this game all to keep a small minority of esports fans occupied. This users are a stain on the community and the game, and catering to them is a fools errand.

Mission statement #1 Make games fun.

It’s not make everything time gated, or difficult, or tedious, or anything else. These dungeons shouldn’t be more difficult than they were when they were current. If you were in BT or TL these dungeons weren’t difficult.

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Don’t play anymore, due to the such poor state of the game, but from what i remember all timewalking dungeons are overtuned, in particular trash mobs, bosses arent too bad. This is not news to anyone that has done timewalking the past year though since the 7.3.5 patch when it all got screwed up. Only difference being many are ok with the higher difficulty. Only problem is the rewards aren’t there for the increased difficulty, and it has made finding a group harder as not many bother to do it anymore.

This is why I rarely do Timewalking dungeons at all. I’ll help out guild mates in a pinch or if we are attempting something for a specific reason, but I pass on most of the Timewalking because half the time what you are rewarded just is not worth the effort.

If you weren’t extremely overgeared, yes, they were difficult, far more difficult then what’s displayed in TW.

Black temple not so much, BT was definitely harder back then then the TW version, but the TW version now is basically between LFR and normal, when it should be between normal and heroic.

Over gearing content has been part of the game since the beginning. It is the power progression they have taken away.

It’s why I went back to content like Duskwood to kill Stitches or Outland to keep the reaver.

These dungeons today in time walking are tuned as is everybody is starting out in content with no power.

I ran those dungeons hundreds on times back then, as it was part of our recruitment process. None of them were abutting close to what they are in time walking.

There is an argument to be made that classes had different abilities and stats were different as well. But what really matters is this group of developers is of the mindset that everything in the game needs to take a long as possible. I really wish blizzard would clean house and find some new people.

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As explained, TW is meant to feel for the dungeons as they were while they were CURRENT.

Meaning you being overgeared during the last 2 tiers of the expansion for them is not what they are meant to feel like.

And hell, even now you can still get the overgeared braindead feeling you want just by making a TW set anyway.

You want to feel stupidly powerful and have the content be not even close to what it was before? Build a set. That’s your fault for not making one.

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I don’t think you know what the hell current means. People can outgear current content. When your power is artificially lowered its not the same thing.

Its fine if you lie it, stop acting like others should.

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This is so true of so much regarding this game. The scaling that was put in place made this (almost) entire experience not fun. Timewalking most have too much HP, hit too hard and aggro from insane distances. Even when these dungeons were live, they were more fun that this.

How is this game so disconnected from its players…

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When you heavily outgear content it is no longer current for you. As you should now move to the next stage.

Example being, I outgear the hell out of normal raids, moved to heroic, keeping up on outgearing that, and thus my current content becomes mythic, and no longer heroic.

That is how it works, just because Normal BoD is out, does not make it my current content.

You seem to be the one having a hard time understanding what current is.

No. I get it, you don’t. Time walking doesn’t scale to your progression, you scale down to it. Therefore you never really outgear it.

Your solution to build anothrr set is an example of another bad response to another gear grind.
You are their target audience for sure. Keep up the fight, I’m sure there are dozens more like you.

There have been hundreds of posts since 7.3.5 in this site, the old site, and mmo champion about how broken timewalking is. You trying to say it’s not doesn’t help, it makes you look bad.

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Dps having to wait and even then, not go all out, was one of the greatest things about the early game. It took a lot more skill back then compared to now because you couldn’t just go go go. You wanted to do as much dps as possible without pulling aggro.

Yes it was fun.

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Why even play the game, if you just want to sleep through it?

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TW is designed for nostalgia and has to scal you down to be relevant in any way. There is still a progression path, maybe you just don’t want to throw on some old gemmed gear and partake in it. They are handing out Raid quality gear, but if you don’t like it, don’t do it.

Takes 20 minutes to run old SoO and throw a set together if you deleted all your old gear.

Regardless, you can get as good or better gear just doing Emissaries, so if you don’t find a little challenge fun, they are literally throwing gear at you from everywhere.

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give better rewards for tw

I would say my previous response, to another poster, applies here:

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