Perci, sorry buddy, don’t take this as an insult but this seems like some really entitled thinking.
Thinking that Horde or Alliance are entitled to a win?
RUIN winning is not the issue. Horde losing isn’t an issue either. It’s WPvP. You’re supposed to work for your wins. It wouldn’t be a problem if RUIN won a BfN using a raid to win. Using multiple raids is the issue because it eliminates any chance of retaliation. It’s not WPvP at that point if you can’t participate in any PvP.
Imagine if Alliance wasn’t the outnumbered in War Mode. What if they simply got 25% bonus just for being Alliance? Or what if Horde got the 25% bonus despite not being the outnumbered faction? See how wrong that’d be?
No one is entitled to anything. I may have worded my post poorly. But my point was that most BfN are horde dominated which make them a free win. I don’t want free wins for either side. I want a knock out drag out fight a good back forth. Not a one sided circle J… well you get my point.
I agree there is never a need for more than 40 people out there.
You aren’t kidding. Which is one reason I’m not a raid pvp kind of guy. But some are and to each their own I always say.
I don’t disagree. There is far more reward in something that you have worked for, than something just given to you. I think some of the best BfNs I’ve been in were hard fought back an forths.
That would be great. As it would solve all our problems.
So I guess 10v1 gankings isn’t “wPvP” either. The 1 has no way to fight back, and the 10 should have to work for their win. Lets limit all wPvP engagements to 1v1’s.
Just because the wPvP isn’t fair, doesn’t mean that it isn’t wPvP. Again, “You just don’t like it”
In fact I would argue, wPvP is entirely all about lop sided engagements. It just so happens that the engagements fall in RUINs favor on shards they enter with no recourse possible from Horde due to server limitations.
If blizzard is unable to make it so 160 vs 160 battles can take place without crashing the server (Either through better coding or upgrading hardware) I actually wouldn’t mind it if blizz instituted hard faction caps per zone. Cap the zones to 40 or 80 per faction.
Unrelated to the topic of discussion, but I also think they should remove flying from world PvP like BFN. For instance make flying supressed for the duration of the battle. Not only would this encourage PvE’ers in the zone to actually participate or force them out of the zone, it would make the battle more than just zerging one flag point to the next. It would give flight whistle a purpose and would make camping flight paths and controlling choke points such as the crossroads between New Home and Mez a viable strategy.
Battle for Naz could be so much better. But as it stands, it is more or less just a PvE event for whoever has or can bring in more members to a phase.
I don’t disagree with you, but you’re comparing two different scenarios. In the case of a 10v1, that 1 person can fight back. He can bring friends, he can bring people from his guild. It’s much easier to obtain 10 people than it is to obtain 160 people. You can’t even fight back against 160 people where as you can fight back against 10 people. It’s much easier as well to limit 40 people per shard each for Horde and Alliance than it is to limit 1 person per shard for Horde and Alliance.
It really isn’t about being unfair. There’s a difference between it being unfair and it being straight up impossible. It’s one thing to fight someone who has a gun and you have a knife. It’s unfair. It’s impossible though to fight someone who has an organized military vs you with a knife. It’s straight up impossible.
This isn’t a bad suggestion really. I always thought this should’ve happened to begin with, similar to how it was done in Wintergrasp. You could fly when the battle wasn’t taking place, but couldn’t when the battle was taking place. It’d give you a debuff giving you 10 seconds to land before you were dismounted.
Probably because I’ve been in the guild for 7 years, know arch personally, and have been an officer most of my time in the guild and interact with both factions of our guild, and all of you idiots have is hearsay from people who have either never been in our guild or communities or heard it from other people who heard it from god knows where.
Honestly man ruin is bad. But you are such a poor representative for them. Like they don’t need your mindless rambling excuses on these forums to make them look worse bro. If you are the best they have to speak up for the actions of the guild all I can say is yikes lol
What is a throwaway account? This is my main account. I’m assuming you still think I am papabear? I’m just a friend that came here to see what was up and laugh at you. He has been continuing to steam roll alliance that “don’t know him” in naz and mech last few days. Like he said before, actions speak louder than words. When the whole alliance group is trying to take him down as he laughs at them it seems to say different that they don’t know him. Just saying
If by steamroll you mean die in Boralus on his mage numerous times when I was on my druid and we chased him out of town, and logging out in the cave in Naz at 2% health, after a failed attempt to hit Ally in Mezz, then sure? He didn’t even attempt to fight until he had a bunch of horde with him, and had my hunter targeted like it was his job, yet a quick turtle/feign and my own Guardian druid friend took him down to that 2% before he logged out. Dude. Logged. Out. I am just “ok” at PvP, have so much to learn. But what I don’t get is people who come here and talk smack but are not only bad, they’re cowards. The ones who post in these threads who are highly skilled don’t have to build themselves up with nonsense posts about how wonderful they are.
I asked him about that. He said he did have the hunter that cried and reported him on forums targeted in naz. Said she wouldn’t come down from flying on her mount as he was running circles around all the alliance trying to kill him. Again he was not grouped yet every alli in zone was trying for that kill on him. I mean yeah of course you guys will get a kill here and there on him. But his numbers killing you compared to you killing him are in his favor. As for his mage in boralus. Again he laughed. Said well good job on killing him in your main city after again him killing a lot of you. And it took how many plus guards to kill a lonely mage? He said he gets it you guys are bad and need to make up any excuse you can to save face. He asked if you would please dismount and not run next time also. He knows you are afraid and had to hide behind your raid on him.
He also had a couple questions for you. He was wondering why you think he logged out? Because he never logged out in either of those encounters. Also he was wondering why everyone keeps talking about him here if they don’t care and he is meaningless
There was no raid on you, good lord you can’t even admit you’re him. I was grouped with one person. A few other random people in Naz joined in because you ran to your base and came out with a bunch of buddies, then let them fight and die while you ran away. And the person I was with wasn’t even in RUIN. It’s really cool that I was able to kill people from my flying mount then eh? You’re a sorry troll and that’s about it buddy.
As for Boralus, you didn’t kill anyone on your mage, at least not after we saw you, what you kill someone who was afk in town? You weren’t killed by guards and you know it. The guards can put a ring of peace down, right? Just stop lying. Go back to your fantasyland. We’ve all died in world PvP, you can’t even admit when someone beats you.
i love how horde hide in the cave and have their guards reach our alliance base, but even with those advantages, i straight up made you DC, i was on my bear krsnik, ogpapabear runs and hides and DC logs just to pretend he is some alliance killer
these two toons killed you, and wasn’t a raid , you have 30 horde storming us and you used deepbud to jump away like a a tauren with his tail between his leg
I believe papabear told me to tell you that he did die. He can’t even take raids and alliance positioning around an area just for a kill on him. He didn’t even remember it was you right away as he was targeting through names. He saw you had him targeted and was like wait that’s that alliance chick off the forums. And he mentioned you never landed. Let everyone else do the work. Then he had to run through your town just to get you guys to come out. As for boralus he was laughing and taunting so many on his mage in your own city. Yeah he said you got some kills. Good job, it took many of you on one mage to barely get him. And he was laughing at you the whole time. But he told me to tell you thanks for remembering him while he is suspended from forums.
that moment you get mad cuz you got swarmed in an opposing factions home town…aint no raid groups brah, you got stomped, dumb of you to try and solo alliance bases, you couldn’t even kill anyone with your blinks on cd, and iceblocking prayers
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