Yeah it appears they cant seem to have an actual conversation.
It def came off as accusations
Fwiw Iâm sure someone hates it, but such is the internet.
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What the hell⌠I donât even know who you are, youâre a complete stranger to me and i canât recall ever having interacted with you here on the forums before this discussion, where do you get off saying something like that about me?
Seriously, all of this crap just because i said needing on stuff and selling it for gold was bad form? 
Just to reiterate, I have no problem with you. I know you were the topic of my discussion for a bit, but it was ultimately just breaking down something specific youâd said that I disagree with. (That primarily being whether or not salty is relevant)
We have had multiple conversations. I used to post on a classic toon.
If the shoe fits.
See, i take issue with this. This discussion wasnât about people demanding that someone hand something over freely, it was about selling an item that was won. I donât think the âsaltyâ people in the OPâs original scenario would have cared if the person won the item, equipped it and went on with their day, people got âsaltyâ because it was offered up for gold instead of being used.
I just think that if you need on an item, you should do so because you actually need it and intend to wear it, not because you plan to sell it. This is not an entitled position to take, itâs just common courtesy.
And this is where you completely missed the point. That is what OP did. he needed with the intent to use it, however someone offered them a lot of gold for it.
Then someone ELSE who lost the roll got mad and reported them.
Nah not bannable other wise they would ban carries lmao
I didnât miss any point, thereâs no functional difference between needing on an item in order to sell it, or needing on an item to use it, only to realize people are willing to pay for it and then put it up for sale, that really comes down to intent, and none of us know what their original intent was, they can say it was anything after the fact.
I simply maintain that if a person needs an item, they should just use it, nobody should hound them for it, whether it be to guilt them into handing it over or even try to entice them with gold, itâs theirs, they won it and nobody else is entitled to it.
What is the alternative?
Letâs say Iâm right, and he wanted the item, but prices were offered that were more valuable. Whatâs wrong with opting to sell?
Letâs say itâs worst case scenario and he wanted to vendor, DE or even delete the item for space, but said âletâs just see if anyone will buy it.â Scummy, to be sure, but youâre either buying it or not. Either way, youâre given a shot outside of the roll to get the item, which is a net positive over no response whatsoever.
Iâm not debating whether or not itâs justified to be salty. I get why theyâre salty, and can sympathize. The problem is that getting upset over it is ultimately a form of entitlement. You lost the roll, this is an unfortunate form of but still a form of extra chance you would not normally get.
So weâre in agreement then. Everything else is just nonsense about what people should or shouldnât do, not what they can and cannot do according to the rules.
On the idea that it would be scummy in that scenario yes.
I just feel the need to make clear I do not find selling of all kinds to be scummy. Importantly, I can rarely verify intent of a person.
Weâre basically on the same page, you think itâs scummy, i think itâs horrible, i said it isnât against the rules, you said it isnât against the rules⌠the main sticking point seems to be the fact that i appeared to be on the side of the âsaltyâ people lol
sadly not all despicable acts are ban offenses, there is a great many things you can do that will give you no sort of punishment but also be damaging to the community. This is most likely due to Blizzard simply not able to have the resources or willing to be everyones babysitter, you should act like a mature adult on your own.
You did. There is also a DISTINCT difference between the two.
End of the day if they need and win the item they are free to do what they want with it.
the rule that one is making up in his own deranged imagination, lmao
I can offer any drop I get for sale.
Not bannable. Its his to do with as he pleases and it wasnât a boost run. He is asking for gold for the item and if they donât want to trade well that be how it be.
Heâs actually salty he didnât have the gold.
And this is why you should learn to read things a second time before getting upset. Because thatâs not what happened, this is what happened:
They won their BiS trinket, aka. they were going to use it. But others wanted it. Since they also needed gold they figured that they could offer it for gold if someone else wanted it that much.
What they did is the same thing I do with guildmates. Except I donât expect them to pay but figure âhey, this is better than what I got and I won it fair and square - but looking at your stuff now, would you want it as it would be a bigger boost for youâ. Just replace guildmates with âcomplete strangersâ and you have the same situation.
No one went into this intending to sell anything.
What you are complaining about is that someone else won their gear fair and square. Then deciding upon others wanting it as well that they would make the choice that if others wanted it, they could pay 'em gold through a fair trade. Otherwise as it was their BiS it is safe to assume that they would use it.
You are literally just complaining about someone winning an item and making it available to others if they want to pay for it. Otherwise theyâd be using it themselves as they were the ones who won it. You are mad that they didnât give handouts - thatâs called entitlement.
No, it is because you keep making things up.
Have a good day.
Certainty not bannable but its a dog act.