Ban Premades

[Plumcrazy-dalaran]

@Sizzler-echo-isles

when they queue solo their win rates are 50%.

90% of these back peddlers and clickers won’t survive by themselves.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Thaedreu-area-52

If you want coordinated play, go play rated bg’s that are designed for that.

All Battlegrounds are designed for coordinated play. It isn’t just rated ones.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

Yes, but coordinated play among randoms… not exploiters that can’t get 1800 without buying it. Hence the name, Random.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

No, we’ve been over this, the random part is the map, not the players.

The other option in the drop down box is Specific Battleground. Not Specific Players.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

No, we’ve been over this, the random part is the map, not the players.

Then why aren’t rated called Random rated bg’s?

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

Because they have their own page and are rated.

They are special.

And you can’t choose a specific map when you queue for them.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

But they are random maps, correct? So, with your logic they should be called Random rated bg’s.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

I suppose you could call them that, if you really want to.

And it’s not my logic, it’s just logic, everyone shares the same logic.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

But they aren’t called that. They are called Rated bg’s. So, the random for unrated bg’s doesn’t mean the maps. or it would say random bg maps.

[Snowcrest-cenarius]

@Ryfuk-frostmourne

I actually just solo queue as a healer if I see a 5 man queuing and haven’t seen a single premade community doing queue-syncing with multiple parties other than RUIN and I’ve been in multiple communities and playing in premades for well over a year.

99% Of premades are just 5 man parties. Sometimes two parties will be in the same EBG, usually multiple groups queuing means single parties in multiple EBG’s.

I know a lot of you will find this very hard to believe; but there isn’t much point in 10 or 20 or 30 people joining a single EBG because even 1 party playing together and playing objectives and bringing leadship to 35 pugs is a 90% win rate anyway so almost no one bothers with syncing huge groups into the same EBG.

RUIN are the only premade I know who do that and that’s so they can orchestrate GY farms and prolong games to farm HK’s.

LOL…what a load of crap.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Thaedreu-area-52

But they aren’t called that. They are called Rated bg’s.

I would argue that, because you can’t select a map when you queue for them, they are always random, so the random is implied.

Whereas for Random Battlegrounds, you have the option to queue for Specific Battlegrounds. So to differentiate from the Specific part, the name Random is required.

[Holycow-uldaman]

When people queue for random bgs, the expectation is that they won’t be playing against a premade raid.

In case that wasn’t obvious, Blizzard has explicitly said so. The game does not allow players to queue for random bgs in a raid group.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

because you can’t select a map when you queue for them

@Hirav-khazgoroth

Whereas for Random Battleground, you have the option to queue for Specific Battlegrounds.

… there are two dif options… with your own logic why would the other one need to say random wouldn’t it be implied?

@Hirav-khazgoroth

So to differentiate from the Specific part, the name Random is required.

… no wonder you need a raid with you to win anything.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Holycow-uldaman

When people queue for random bgs, the expectation is that they won’t be playing against a premade raid.

I used to expect people who queue to want to win, to be wearing at least honor gear, to form a plan/strategy.

I’ve learned that we don’t always get what we expect.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

I used to expect people who queue to want to win, to be wearing at least honor gear, to form a plan/strategy.

I’ve learned that we don’t always get what we expect.

OMG it’s almost like there are… NEW PLAYERS

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

They have 30 honor levels to stop being new players.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

I have seen way under 30 in an epic stop with this… people could also be trying a new class they never played and farming for gear…

[Torturekilla-bleeding-hollow]

Premades are the ones carrying those fresh 70’s in greens. Only one community stacks anything and we all know who that is. All of the other communities take whoever wants to play on whatever toon they want to bring. I know because I play with them and am in disc with them too.

[Hirav-khazgoroth]

@Thaedreu-area-52

I have seen way under 30 in an epic stop with this…

It’s good practice for Random Battlegrounds when they level out of that bracket.

@Thaedreu-area-52

people could also be trying a new class they never played

Not my problem.

@Thaedreu-area-52

farming for gear…

Do it before getting to 70.

[Thaedreu-area-52]

@Hirav-khazgoroth

Not my problem.

And here is the truth behind all you exploiters… you don’t really care about the game you are simply doing whatever you can to make the game as easy as possible for you because you can’t cut it anywhere else. At least be mature enough to admit what you truly are and stop trying to spew your lies nobody but your own people believe it.