how dare u i’ll have u know that title belongs to Lor’themar
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In Garrosh’s fantasy of impaling all of the Horde and Alliance leaders on spikes, Lor’themar was featured. Velen was not.
Velen was so boring that the guy who had sworn to destroy him forgot he existed.
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consider: before WoD Blizzard did not care about Draenei whatsoever
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im gonna break a bat over Illidan’s head and say that he was the worst thing about Legion for me
this is a guy who for 10,000 years has done nothing but whine and complain about how everyone doesn’t like him despite the fact that he does nothing but be a massive tool at every opportunity
he’s also been chasing a married woman for who knows how many thousands of years who very clearly has 0 interest in him because he is just that big of an idiot
he killed his own allies just so he could take their power so he could get all the glory for driving back the Legion
AND YET we had to deal with him being THE CHOSEN ONE, the BIG HERO THAT WILL SAVE US ALL, THE GUY WHO WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG despite the fact that everything he did was selfish and rash
then he has the big ol danglers to go and call Velen an idiot for avoiding fighting an entire army of demons with what few people he had left, regularly asks others “I’VE SACRIFICED EVERYTHING WHAT HAVE YOU GIVEN” despite the fact that people have lost their entire civilizations to fight the Legion, and treats everyone like he knows better than them
maiev hating him is completely legitimate
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“Grandpa, will you tell me the story of Illidan again?”
“Ah, yes, Illidan. The boy who sacrificed everything, except for his sweet chick-magnet scars or whatever.”
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Chicks do dig men with attractive scars. Can confirm. ![:wink:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")
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“MY DESTINY IS MY OWN!!!”
but boy oh boy apparently all the people he threw under a bus for his own goals sure didn’t have their own destinies did they
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… Meanwhile, I was playing on my Forsaken DK all through Legion staring at those Illidari whenever they’d say that, just like, “…Really? REALLY???” lol
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Maybe that was their destiny.
I remember reading this short story once, years ago. This guy had some big destiny to have some involvement with this event of impact on some great galactic scale so he was always looking for it. He ended up on some space station in some meaningless position anyway but still insisted he had a destiny. Turns out it was to be killed when some hostile aliens attacked and destroyed the station.
I am guessing that the moral is your destiny isn’t always what you expect or want. Something like that.
the hypocrisy comes from him completely ignoring that becoming Lightforged may have been his destiny and that it’s his own to make
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I know I’ve said this before, but “I AM MY SCARS” was a great line ruined by a goofily written character.
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Agree so hard.
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So I’ll say this, so far in this Xpac I’ve felt more invested and interested in the storylines that have nothing to do with the Horde vs Alliance narrative. The war campaign just feels so ‘empty’ compared to the zone specific stories, except for Stormsong Valley questing but that just feels like incomplete/chopped to me. Maybe it has to do with the WC being continued for the enterity of the Xpac so it’s as of yet unresolved but I feel a story that is designed to be staggered and taken in chunks should leave you wanting more as compared to feeling obligated to finish it.
Might not be the best answer to the question at hand but that’s my own two cents. As for Illidan, he just struck my as a whiney drama queen and his ‘I AM MY SCARS’ line just felt like the punchline to the joke character. I know it was supposed to be this grand statement that you grow and become stronger by overcoming your previous mistakes, his fel corruption, but it just felt so overdramatic that I couldn’t take it seriously.
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I feel like the war campaigns stand out against the zone stories as an example of bad writing. The zone stories have all been cool and fun and well-written, and I haven’t heard many people say otherwise. Those war campaigns, though, practically scream “we didn’t have a better idea.”
The Horde goes sneaking around to steal artifacts and corpses and ultimately accomplish nothing in what was clearly a pretext for Nathanos to be a creep; the Alliance kills random troll exiles, helps the Horde clean up their san’layn problem, and then as an afterthought plants some bombs. They clearly weren’t written by the same people.
You can kind of tell which were written by writers and which by programmers.
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See I actually enjoyed it came from Illidan. He’s a good character and a lot of fun.
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Boy, that San’layn substory sure got buried quick, didn’t it?
I’d have thought that Sylvanas recruiting vampires would be a real moral event horizon but I think he was mentioned…once? during the Horde campaign.
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People who hated Thrall in Cataclysm or Khadgar in Warlords/Legion confuse me. They are good characters, they didn’t exactly overstay their welcome. Yet people complain about them quite often. SO I guess that’s controversial, but I fail to see why.
Are you saying people who like the story/Blizzard are marxist/lenin/stalin apologizers?
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because thrall was essentially a god and we were forced to go to his wedding with a poorly fleshed out character that only existed to have his babies
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Where? Because I honestly do not remember it being mentioned once. I thought it was like an Alliance only sub-plot.
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I think the mission that takes you to Nazmir has Rok’han mention that Sylvanas believes everyone deserves redemption?