Came back to playing on Era and HC from 2 weeks of playing TBC. I have no regrets coming back; Idk what’s with the community on the TBC servers.
It feels like people on those servers forgot this is a game that’s suppose to be fun.
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If they had confirmed TBC would go to an ERA version I would have created a char and levelled a bit waiting for the sweatlords and tourists to move through and play with the folks that want to actually play TBC later.
Happy on ERA vanilla though.
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Same here.
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I think it’s just a side-effect of the culture the devs are creating… it’s not everyone’s taste.
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I agree. Trying to cram such a long game into a small window makes me not want to play.
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Dam you lasted 2 weeks? Impressive. I got to lvl 64 was like, yeah, nah. Pass.
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Era is great because it’s zero pressure.
I don’t have a lot of time each week to game. Maybe 6 hours tops, and really only two nights for those 6 hours.
If I try to play any “live” progressions version, I will never keep up, and that’s with others playing normally. Add in a culture and meta where it’s all about speed, boosting, and other ways of exploiting the game (imo) and it just feels like it isn’t for me.
Era on the other hand, I never feel left behind. I still find joy out of playing, even after all these years. The community is like minded and it truly feels like the glory days, despite the masses being elsewhere.
Long live era 
our guild is celebrating five years this June if anyone’s keen on joining us on Grobbulus. But wherever you play or whatever version, safe travels friend.
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Welcome home.
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Why’d you delete that? Seemed a like super normal and reasonable post.
Welcome home.
Same. My anni toons are at level 58, may touch them if an era version becomes available
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Yeah I just had cataract surgery this week so its going to be weeks before normal sight and playtime again. Not a single worry. Guildmates no pressure get better soon, not going to fall behind can pick up my dungeon 0.5 grind when I get back.
Also can knock out cooking and fishing with 15 minute breaks when eyes get tired etc.
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I think you’re pointing the arrow in the wrong direction - in large part - the devs are catering to what a majority of the playerbase wants.
They spent years cultivating the FOMO/neckbeard playerbase and it grew from a minority to the majority. You don’t see them complaining here because the game and its accelerated pace is what they want.
Those of us who wants a joyous journey (no pun intended) and experience the game are the vocal minority now.
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Jarl, I so badly want to play with you guys, seeing as I reached max level on the Deviate Delight movement and had a blast with it. The only thing that stops me every time is I just do a /who and there’s 20 people on max each time. I’m definitely not a solo player and like the MMO experience of socializing and doing quests and dungeons with people.
Hello Blownaparté,
While we’d love to have you, and I think you’d have fun if you stuck around, you need to understand Grobbulus is a very different experience. I try to make that clear in all my posts about the realm!
We have about 100 active players total. Across two factions. Almost never would those 100 players all be online at the same time. It isn’t a 25/7 on demand realm. Our peak player counts are going to be during M/W (horde) and T/F (alliance) raid times.
Outside of that, if you just randomly log in and /who you’ll see few players! We are not trying to be what the Deviate Delight refresh hype was. Despite my frequent recruiting, I actually don’t want to see our realm ever blow up and turn into a thing.
What I love about Grobbulus is our tight knit community. We have an incredible group of long term players. We celebrate 5 years in June. Many of the players who will celebrate in our special anniversary Naxx will have been here for 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 years themselves. That’s a group of gamers who have built something special and outlasted the first time people went through the dark portal in 2021 to play TBC, Wrath, SoM, SoD, Cata, MoP, 20th anni vanilla, and again we will outlast TBC.
Point being — we’re playing the long game. If your mindset is to /who and see a ton of players, Grobb may not be the place for you. If you set your sights long into the horizon — a place to play vanilla wow for many years to come with an amazing community — you’ll have a great time.
Leveling on Grobbulus is a largely solo experience. We usually have 6-12 or so people leveling at any given time. Sometimes at level dungeons happen. Usually they’re organized in our discord and planned in advance (versus adhoc on demand happening in the world). We have a very friendly group of established players who are usually happy to jump in and run a dungeon with you or help with a quest when needed.
Our AH doesn’t exist. We trade everything internally. Gold is worthless here, so we buy new members all their mounts for free, and you save the rest for repair bills. Everything else is done community style… we post things in our guild bank and marketplace channels in discord, and we pass out consumes for free when needed for raids. In return, many players help by donating materials to the guild to make this happen. Others help in other ways.
Despite my frequent recruiting, I don’t actually want us to grow up much more than we have 
I just want us to have a roughly 40 player raid roster on each faction. Other than that, we really don’t need or want much more! In fact, we rarely have ever had 40 players in raid. All of our progression from MC (16 players total for first rag kill in 2021) to our first KT kill (about 38 people in 2024) have been sub 40 rosters. I can only count maybe 10 times we’ve ever had to bench someone. One of those times was our Winter Solstice seasonal Naxx event. We had something like 55 players trying to join. I think in the end we successfully rotated 52 into Naxx over the duration of the raid.
Part of the beauty is, we have no strict requirements here. Players skip raid weeks, sometimes take month/year long breaks, come back, and it’s like nothing happened. We are all about creating a sustainable and healthy community environment to play vanilla wow long term! Because of that, I do have to recruit to get new players to be curious enough to join what should be a dead server.
For those that see the value of a healthy, long term, 5-year tenured social vanilla wow community, playing at a slower place in a unique way….. they have a great time and stick around!
For those expecting on-demand play, hundreds or thousands of players, always online 24/7 experience… we are probably the worst place in the world to roll! Those players rarely stick around past a few weeks.
So I can’t say what you should do. I just try to lay out the facts about joining us and the experience you’re walking into. If you do feel like that sounds fun, I can’t speak highly of it enough. I joined Legacy in 2022, so I will be celebrating 4 years later this year myself. I’m not the guild leader or even an officer. Just a dwarf spreading the gospel as the Light and me ale have directed me to. It’s been the absolute best gaming experience of my life.
Whatever you decided, I wish you safe travels friend. Perhaps see you around one day.
Yours in Battle,
Jarl
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I’m making no attempt to state that the culture cultivated by the devs results in the majority of people being against it. That would be nonsensical from my perspective.
I’m approaching this go of TBC as if it were going to get an Era treatment. Last TBC relaunch I made it to 64 and quit lol, but this time I have reason to believe there will be an Era option at the end. What other reason would they have burned a 30+ hour maintenance window for? They were testing out new copying tech.
Ideally it gets an Era, but in the meantime I’m happily enjoying a change of scenery from GDKP addicts in Era.
A tale as old as time. Wishing you the best, but wouldn’t get your hopes up.
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That’s how I’m looking at it, too.
I hope they do come through with a set of TBC Era perma-realms, but I’m not investing time into it again unless they announce that it’s actually happening, or at least publicly indicate that it could happen. The fact that they haven’t really said anything about it makes me think that they really don’t want to do it.
← I still have the other copy of this guy in level 70 pvp gear, sitting by himself in Shattrath, in what is now MoP. As much as I enjoyed TBC and TBC Classic, I’d feel silly doing all that again just to be left with another abandoned character, after rushing through content I like on overpopulated servers full of a certain type of players whom I typically avoid.
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same here =(
I deleted my one character that progressed past TBC long ago.