Av no more queue exploit, 1 day after exploi are back blizzard useless patch

Alliamce should queue because you know, pvp.

PvP is not as high on peoples priorities over here on the Alliance. I could take it or leave it personally. And all the hate being throw all over the forums is not helping that. If anything, comments like “what a faction of losers” just drives me and I would suspect many others, further away from it.

Ok, Mr UD Rogue (aka I need to most broken race/class combo to play)

the whole point of premades was to give a chance of winning at all. nothing was an exploit and premades only won ~50% of the time. the horde map advantage and number advantage is unarguable.

premade is only to farm low level and low rank and out gear player is got any skill there also blizzard patch this issue and compare to learn how to play the game , you waste time how to exploit the queue system , i guess is 110% legit to meme now (typical alliance player ) mean weak and cheater

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This doesn’t make much sense.

The alliance stuff, mainly humans zones are far more developed than the Horde before TBC.

The storyline, the quests, NPCs, environments, etc. The humans quests progression is a masterpiece on its own. It is like they designed the whole story around Onyxia schemes, and then tried to fit the horde on the middle of that. Meanwhile, playing on the Horde feels like that you are jumping from one wasteland to another, and there’s no story progression at all. The horde race that suffers less with this issue are the forsaken, but even it feels like a rushed development.

I don’t think AV was designed with favoritism in mind. Not doing it simmetric was a dumb idea, and Alliance has a huge advantage, because they could hold the game as long as they want, thanks to the chokepoints, it just sucks that for us, winning a long game is as bad as losing. (Actually, Horde should be grateful they aren’t the ones with short queues, because even if they did premades against ally pugs, they wouldn’t be able to win AV at all).

the bridge? that u can avoid using the backdoor? The horde geting to belinda before us? the free tower/gy the horde get thanks to their cave?
and
something is telling me u didnt watched let me help u
countdowntoclassic. com/2018/08/20/episode-63-the-making-of-world-of-warcraft-with-vanilla-dev-john-staats/

english, you don’t speak it. no, premades are a tool, also there was no exploiting. wasn’t an exploit for 15 years, and it still isn’t. not cheating either.

Because ally have fast/instant ques and horde dont.
We have to make sure we do all objectives in order to get max honor.
Make no mistake horde could win just as fast but the honor you would get for that would be minimal.

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this just helps to highlight it, but the goals of the average horde and alliance pvpers are very different.

Do you realize that the backdoor is even easier to hold?

Back in Vanilla, AV was a horde nightmare. The 24+ hours matches that people talk about, were always a turtle caused by the alliance on the bridge when we were losing. Even on later expansions, AV was known as the BG that alliance always won.

The problem is that winning on AV is irrelevant for rankers.

“remove AV numbers, that will fix the premades”

No matter how many times you were told that this wouldn’t fix the issue and people would find a work around in the first 24 hours you come here and are somehow still surprised that exactly what was said would happen… happened?

Did you listen?

They literally address why that is in that episode 20 seconds after the timestamp.