Stop wasting your time on him, he’s a 300 IQ AV player as horde.
20 IQ everywhere else.
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I don’t know why you guys bother arguing with these Horde players. The issues with the map have been listed over and over and they still don’t get it. At this point it’s just being obtuse.
Also we totes know factions are balanced, it’s only on PvP servers they’re not. Yup, only PvP servers and nothing else, that’s why Blizzard won’t release the numbers and breaks mods getting an accurate census.
horde players have to keep up that “underdog” mentality because the concept of them being the bigger faction this time around absolutely scares them for some reason.
Some of them finally think they are good at the game and it would be a rude wake-up call. Knowing that it’s just the map that letting them win.
I really hope all of them play TBC so we can see the arena ranking they get. I can’t wait for the excuses to flow in then. When most of them are hard stuck at 1700.
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I don’t know either. Perhaps you should focus on the alliance players that are actively working against winning the BG, like a bunch of dead-weights chained to your ankles.
Av is not gonna die. You guys are alarmists.
just check out the number of avs that are going on. By the time P5 release, the only ones will actually be bot infested to the point that they are mostly bots.
The only proof I need that AV map favors horde is playing a PuG vs PuG AB. Casual Horde players have learned from AV they can zug zug zerg to a win. AB is a counter zerg BG, rotation and defending wins, not zerging and attacking. Even if horde has 3 or more nodes they do not stop attacking and often do not leave a single defender on nodes. “I need Moar HKs!” These are all tactics learned from AV. Horde has to be brain dead to lose AV, Alliance has to be perfect to win.
Arena ranking is a very different game type than AV war scale PvP…
This forum is a great example of why alliance lose.
Look at all of them blaming the map when it’s very much not the map.
I’m not saying horde>alliance in AV, but we actually try to win because of the que times. Alliance however don’t try to win because they aren’t worried about winning, they want to cheese druids for rep, or just afk for free rep/honor.
Every AV I have played I check the fights with eagle eye and track humanoids. I typically see 5-15 not participating in the fighting at the main clash point. I typically find about 5 alliance either killing harpies or in the cave for leveling, and then the occasional bots.
So that’s 10-20 on average not playing for any form of win condition, not even killing horde. That’s 25-50% of the alliance team not doing anything to win. And you blame the map…
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AB doesn’t have pve side quests to distract alliance like AV does.
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They could keep the druids at their spawn indefinitely and alliance could infinitely turn in storm crystals until horde finally pushed up and killed the druids. The rep farmers say you can’t get rep now and that getting exalted is impossible now because they fixed this exploit. They’re wrong, but try telling them that.
Horde have the same pve side quests in AV.
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What makes you special that you feel you deserve to get to and cap SF gy first?
Why do you deserve that handicap?
It’s a bottle neck grave yard which allows attackers to shoot down uninhibited at the graveyard. You get all the advantages as are had at sh gy with that included.
Soooo what am I missing here? Is fw gy a funnel/bottleneck? Last I checked it wasn’t.
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Which they are obviously doing since Lok and war riders are almost always summoned.
Just another lame excuse to deny this map is garbage.
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Yet much more motivation because of the long que times to actually try. That and we don’t bug our shamans because I don’t think that works how the alliance can bug their druids.
So the efficient way to get rep is TO WIN. Combine that with Alliance not really fighting back to try to win, but nearly to delay and it makes horde win because alliance focus on rep farming as their win condition, horde focus on winning as how they get their rep.
Alliance get little honor or rep with the current horde strat of scorched earth.
Shockingly alliance don’t want to queue for it now that blizzard broke their only decent way to get rep which was holding druids.
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Horde get there a few seconds before alliance. Alliance can easily interior the initial cast time for capping but chose not to because they intentionally barricade themselves at their GY, and they don’t try to push for anything. Their stealth teams are more focused on getting rep than objectives and they don’t compete for any objective south of that GY 90% of the time and even then it’s only 5-10 actually trying to go south as the rest stay behind the barricade for rep>objectives.
The alliance like to make out this falsehood that horde get a 10 minute headstart on everything in AV…
Maybe alliance should actually play the map now since their pve rep farm simulator got broken? They have to learn to do so and that’s the problem. They try one thing and when it doesn’t work how they want, they give up.
And now you get to experience what happens on a broken map when alliance can’t even use their rep farm 
Enjoy your queue times.
Alliance have tried all strats that horde seem to think are so brilliant, none of them work.
No. They can’t. I tried every which way with all the mount speed buffs. You get there first and can have it turned.
Try again, step child.