Your definitions are a little out of whack. 25/40 is not nearly a full premade. It’s barely more than half.
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The Alliance don’t win every game. The only reason Alliance wins as much as they do is because the Horde have become complacent. They jump into AV and do the same thing over and over that they’ve been doing for a year. Horde are absolutely terrible in AV.
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Having played both sides over the years when one faction dominated another in AV I can see both sides of the coin. Am I currently happy about Horde losing to premades? Of course not. But premades can be beaten and have fact we have beaten some of them in the past few days. As someone else mentioned in another thread, the Horde can organize their own premades if we work together. Hell, a premade vs premade in AV win or lose would be fun.
Complaining about the situation won’t solve anything. Organizing, Adapting and reacting on battlefield will.
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Man premades can clear mythic raid content why cant every random LFR group clear mythic content.
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The map is still an issue. Players just found a work around.
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Would you believe they organize after they zone in? Not even kidding, these are not exploiting players but what remains of the alliance that like AV.
Really considering the colossal map advantage that the horde enjoys I have positively zero pity for the horde here.
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tldr /thread
how is this cheating? How is it a bad thing also? I’ve noticed the AV queue time lowering and lowering the past few weeks and was wondering what was up. This is a very good thing.
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I don’t think it’s considered cheating to link a discord in your random battleground.
But since horde are crying I just imagine they’ll take away being able to communicate in Alliance battlegrounds.
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premades pay more subs than you.
you’re the acceptable loss.
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I note a distinct lack of evidence.
Lol this is too funny, see you tonight!
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I thought you were doing something about this crap blizzard?
Every single night I wait 40-90 minutes getting world buffs, spend hundreds on consumables for Naxx only to find myself against a constant stream of sweaty edgelords that are organized and led via discord.
its not even worth playing this game if you cant be bothered to keep basic cheating under control and functionality of the inherent game systems in place.
I got a link to that discord and found several hundred members using it actively - this is a damn joke. How am I supposed to compete with these speed clearing guilds that are cheating by organizing on Discord to raid?
You guys want my sub money each month??
You want people to come back to tbc to play??
Well, tighten this crap up and ban these cheaters - no ones going to look forward to end game raids when cheating like this just gets ignored and you do nothing for months to combat the broken system.
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I thought you were doing something about this crap blizzard?
Every single night I wait 40-90 minutes getting world buffs, spend hundreds on consumables for Naxx only to find myself against a constant stream of sweaty edgelords that are organized and led via discord.
its not even worth playing this game if you cant be bothered to keep basic cheating under control and functionality of the inherent game systems in place.
I got a link to that discord and found several hundred members using it actively - this is a damn joke. How am I supposed to compete with these speed clearing guilds that are cheating by organizing on Discord to raid?
You guys want my sub money each month??
You want people to come back to tbc to play??
Well, tighten this crap up and ban these cheaters - no ones going to look forward to end game raids when cheating like this just gets ignored and you do nothing for months to combat the broken system.
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I did AV for the first time in a long time as horde last night, won 6 lost 2, I’d hardly call it a constant stream. Queues were 30-45 minutes which was way shorter than I’ve ever seen them too, it was fun.
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At most given times there are 5-7 AV’s up and our premades run 2-3 MAX, the horde went from 99% win to 60% wins and are throwing absolute temper tantrums. I hope you all know we gleefully read your sob stories in the forums out loud and laugh about them. Get gud.
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I play AV all the time and barely win. I literally keep my subscription mainly because of AV, I find turtles relaxing even if a loss. I have my doubts these alleged premades even exist.
I think what the Horde actually dislike is the cubby strategy. They don’t like it because it wipes them at SHGY over and over and they find it annoying. It rarely wins AV either, myself having won about 7 games total, about 3 of those because of cubby.
It would amaze me if Blizzard makes a strategy against the rules all because it bothers the Horde babies & makes their 99.9% wins 99.5% wins.
Jeez man…
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No kidding right? They’re being a bunch of babies literally crying that they can’t win 100% of the time any more.
What times do you play? Also what’s the discord, I have yet to join but I’ll be damned if I don’t considering contributing to the QQ as doing gods work.
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I find it hilarious that Horde are crying about losing AV due to an unfair disadvantage 
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Should someone tell them why they’ve been winning 90% of AV?
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