Ya I just watched another one just like that hahaha but hold on the monsieur agrimar above said that ppl queue av to pvp ??? That’s two in a row that I watched where there’s literally 0 kills lol maybe he doesn’t know pvp stands for player vs player
Three in a row now lol
I just hit 60 so figured “What the hell” and queued AV to see what’s up.
For the ally players there’s another horde group doing this:
The worst part is that a loss gives you barely less honor than a win lol therefore it doesn’t matter what the outcome is, the faster the game everyone wins (from a pure honor perspective, for my brain idk )
If the Alliance is fast with killing Lts/Galv, sometimes we get even more honor in a loss than the Horde in victory.
I actually don’t like the quick losses. Yes it gets me honour and sometimes that’s like, fine. But I only have a 60% mount (my server is small and its hard to farm raw gold on a holy priest, plus im enchanting that loses money levelling on small servers) so it can be the case I get to IBGY to start healing and the game is over the first horde i see.
I enjoy me sum Av always gewd fights love turtles hehe makes more honor 
I don’t know why yall hate it. I will call out more D aka “defense” … and we win . Just try Av does not to be nerfed, just pvp lul
You obviously haven’t ever ranked seriously. Without turtles it is easy to break 10k honor per hour. No turtle ever comes close to those numbers unless it last like 3 hours. Of course by then you’d have 30k+ honor without a turtle group slowing you down. Turtles also increase wait times further slowing honor gain per hour for everybody. Turtle Groups are essentially “Griefer Groups” in this ranking system. Fortunately, Now that more players are capable of high ranking, Turtle Griefer groups are few and far between.
This is how ranking was when Classic launched. Nothing is different. I was there.
LUL.
It’s just easier to get R14 now.
Buffing the wolves/rams is the way.
Good job past me from 2 months ago!
Post #7 is the /thread
My 2 cents.
As to AV I think they need to use the rebalanced map I shouldn’t be just passing by Balinda on a 100% mount and get ambushed by a bunch of Horde when they are out to force a turtle the whole them already being nearly on top of the first Alliance GY while the alliance are just reaching SF doesn’t play out well.
As to AB/WSG (I personelly hate WSG but I do like AB) one of my biggest issues with both that really keep me from queing for them unless its their weekend, is they are a nightmare to get rep with unless you win I mean seriously they have some good gear and I do like to do some PvP but if the rep locked loot is worse to farm than if I tried to go for say the bloodsail buccaneers then why the hell would I want to do it
Actually apparently you have never ranked seriously before. Because 10k hph is about as mediocre as it gets
Imagine doing PVP in BG… how dare the horde attack people!! Back in my day there were more than 5 total HKs in AV
Unironically, when av was meta in classic that first 3 months we would just spam wsg and we ended up getting some REALLY good teams/games. I miss that
Then when the meta changed it was still mostly good but you could tell what premades were av bots and which were gamers
My issue isn’t fighting the Horde its the advantage they have in this case on the map but since you didn’t read all I wrote and just want to be like GG noob I’m just gonna ignore you.
Bring back the av which took 3 days. Well now it might take 2hours due to the power of naxx gear but whatever.
I remember that. A lot got changed in AV to make it faster. Although I wasn’t a fan, to be honest. Before that, I was having a blast hunting in wpvp and not just doing the TM vs SS thing.
Here’s something I wrote in Aug 2005:
"Personally I don’t like AV much because it feels like a boring zergfest that takes way too long. I like the faction rewards but can’t keep myself in there for more then 30 mins before get tired of it for another 3 weeks. "
Zerg mentality in a 1.5 AV will still make for quick games. Ive seen it on private servers AND in Korraks revenge on retail (which is the same version).
I think if people were honest with themselve, a 30 min to 1 hr AV would be fun for them. Thats enough time to complete all the side quests .
If blizzard awarded participation in those quests you would see a shift in how AV is played.
Btw, you already DO GET BONUS HONOR for summoning Ivus/Lok
In all honesty, I don’t totally hate AV. In fact, I did quite a few at the end of Classic (pre-TBCC) where the meta shifted from horde farming ally for 31 minutes to one where the two sides battled it out.
That’s where I started seeing Ivus most games, the gryphons, the wyverns, and even the ram riders.
I do remember 2005 from when I first saw the BG though and even as a hunter it was just sitting there and fighting at the same spot for hours. Granted I don’t think anyone knew what they were doing. AV on that server interestingly also (pre-cross-realm BGs) stopped popping for 2 months and everyone thought it was broken until we were able to get enough on both sides to queue for it and surprise, it popped, and was back after that. I’m not even against the original AV being in Classic, I just wanted to share my experience.
I’m not gonna lie, I haven’t been hating it as much as I thought I would. I’ve been making it fun for myself picking fights here and there, back capping, basically everything that the bot rankers don’t want you to do lol I’ve queued a few today on both factions and I haven’t really seen any 6-minutes games lol I’ve seen more long ones than quick ones.
I figured, that’s the only BG that’s popping, might as well have my own little fun 
(also half the people don’t fight back)