if “they” couldnt get games to pop, it means that there arent enough “rep farmers” to be interested in getting one to pop. I don’t know the min players but it sure aint 40 ea side.
so if ur saying the only reason why the now-rep farmers who’s supposed to be majority of the AV-queuers weren’t able to get a games before suddenly decided to queue then maybe but i highly doubt it.
logic aint mathing up
Again, we have literal historical proof via SoM.
Era has also undergone a population boom within this last year. You arent viewing these things on a long enough timeline to draw the conclusions you’re making.
imagine if the “solution” for every problem was “wait and see how much damage this does before we actually start a solution” XD
the population boom happened BEFORE these new changes, which means that the system in place was fine.
We already have enough data and it called SoM which lasted 1.5 years.
sorry homie i like AV games too cuz playing an ele shaman is fun af in AV, but we all kno these changes are bad
Does it not make sense that the larger BGs are now eaier to fill because there are now more people in the game overall?
Said another way: when there were less people playing Era the smallest BGs were the only ones with consistent games.
Not at all. AV being a once-a-month event and never popping outside of that timline is not ‘fine’.
it’s alot better then the alternative where it’s the ONLY thing that pops, and the games are full of casual afkers/botters.
Also, one of the big reasons is cuz blizz announced a reset so ofc ppl arent going to be queuing lol. well other than for rep but that goes back to my what i said before: the rep farmers had every opportunity to farm rep before but only chooses now AFTER honor is easy to farm? XD
That’s fiction. But even if it were true, this was precisely the status quo for WSG a year ago and no one was complaining then. The shoe is on the other foot now but suddently there’s a problem.
No one was screetching for WSG HpH to be nerfed back then in order to facilitate more AVs so the inverse isn’t appropriate now.
yes becuz wsg isn’t an afk-fest with botters and pver’s “looking to jus farm rep”?
u think I hate AV but again, AV is my favorite map cuz im an ele shaman (and horde side too so considered more of an advantage).
and again, u only say the things u say cuz u dont actually care about the health of the game. u see wat happened in SoM, and ur response is “Well at elast i get to play AV” lol.
That isn’t fiction - there’s rarely a warsong bg and if it does pop it’s almost never full.
Get back to me in a year and if it still hasn’t changed I might care.
I dont play seasonal garbage, and if you truly cared about the long-term health of the game, neither would you.
games dead in a year bro XD
but yes, thx for confirming wat i said. the ppl who like this system dont care XD. either that or they the botters/afkers themselves
PS. didnt oplay Som either but it doesnt mean it aint useful data. learn2logic
You’ll have to quote me on where I said I like this system. I’m here to expose you for the hypocrisy you’re exuding.
lmao did are u in highschool? it’s called implicit communication cuz if u werent okay with it u’d be agreeing with me
it’s not hypocrisy eitehr cuz i actually DO like AV. but since im also intellctually honest, i kno a 100% AV botfest isnt good for the game. that’s not hypocrisy homie, that’s being honest
What I’m not okay with is bad actors feigning contritition, all the while remaining silent for over a year as the community had to put up with this exact same problem but never called for nerfs to the other BGs. It’s a transparent ruse.
the reason why u dont nerf other BGs is cuz this is classic and we’ve seen what “balance” changes happen whenever blizz touches something. again, see SoM.
the reason why AV wasnt played for over a year is cuz the game was literally dead until recently XD XD. lmao at using that as a basis for anything lol especially as the BG requires alot more ppl (80) vs WSG (which only requires 20 ppl). and then blizz killed any chance of it when they announced that ranks would reset so even if ppl did want to rank, all their work could be gone.
if anything ur the bad actor. ur willing to tolerate a botting, semi- afk, and killing PVE progression jus cuz u have a personal bias for AV. I also have a personal bias for AV, but im also honest enuff to see that it aint healthy for the game
Again fabrication and empty rhetoric. I made my stance clear: anyone who didn’t champion for more AV participation back then has no room to be asking for nerfs to it now.
wrong, im not asking for nerfs to AV, im asking to return to the old PVP system.
AV still popped and it’s the same AV since at least 1.12. The only reason why pvp didnt pop cuz blizz announced ranks would reset and cuz of population size
best of both worlds
wrong again on there not being any data either. See SoM lmao. facts aint on uir side homie, thats u responding with emotional 1-liners
It definitely won’t be the case in a year, the game will be dead or the PVP community will be anyway (which it kind of already is)
To be fair, nothing stops anyone from queuing the other BGs either, but I’ll admit that even when a Warsong does pop, it’s hardly never a “fun” game, it’s usually not full (as mentioned), and not competitive at all.
I think the reality is the player base, as it is now, is just absolute garbage. That’s why AV spamming is a thing, it’s all the bad players looking for ez-rank whatever doing the least amount of PVP possible. The actual players that want to PVP are nowhere to be found, either because they won’t solo queue (some people have fragile egos), or just think they’re above the quality of games that are actually popping (to be fair they are pretty damn bad).
I know I’ve mentioned how bad this system is, and it probably is, but either way, it won’t correct the fact that the player base is generally not a PVP-focused one.
Read the title of OP’s thread