AV Changes Needed for New PVP System

Alliance could always win if they tried, Stormpike rules Alterac Valley

Alliance win the rush down. In a pve race they win all the time. But… force them to pvp and their push comes to a screeching halt.

Edit: I will admit alliance did play more D then the horde. Which is pretty damn weird. lol

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Why would I need to defend av?

It’s horrible hph

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you could have stopped here man

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Defending in AV is optimal fun per hour

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the best thing to do is just to NOT do any changes.

what sense does it make to do changes, mess up the system, then try to fix the messes u made.
jus keep it simple blizz; don’t do anything

You must be ill informed.

Av discord (courtesy of nekrage, and absolutely dogwater player) was made by nekrage and fell a couple weeks later.

A bunch of noobs spamming av with a discord is terrible hph if people are queing ab wsg

AV will be fine as long as the hk farmers stay out. Fortunately, the new ranking system really incentivizes doing objectives and actually winning the game. Honor Per Hour will be the purpose of AV, as it was and how it should be. Now if you’re concerned about Arathi Basin and WSG, I’d suggest blizzard increase the honor output if they want more participation in those bgs.

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Yea. Dont grind for R14 in AV. I did it in AB. I only played Alliance and if I would have known they were going to allow faction changes later on, then I would have made this toon as an orc in first Classic launch to grind to R14 on it then moved it over to the Alliance.

I only ever do pallys and shamans and also have 1 rogue simply to gank people and make them rage at me.

In the original AV, you had so many NPC´s, that you could not just run somewhere and finish the bosses with everything up.

To progress you needed to summon Ivus, ram riders… and then you only gained half the way to the next GY. Raising HP will not fix the lack of NPC´s, we need more and stronger ones.

It should not be possible to solo cap a GY or Tower.

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This take sure didn’t age well.

AV has 7-10 instances rolling 24/7 while AB has 1-2 on AB weekend.

Hardly anyone doing WSG premades because the people they used to farm are doing AV and aren’t Qing.

Told ya so.

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I’m not sure it’s good that your prediction of:

Has come true so far is something to be happy about.

My predictions about this harming the PVP community were spot on too. Sadly though with that. :frowning:

My replies on this thread about the meta left the options mostly open.

I want to see what’s happening with Era PVP in 8 weeks. Whitemane is already down to medium pop with the hardcore servers coming out and many people, including PVP players, are really just craving fresh.

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Definitely not happy about it.

Definitely interested to see the pop once the luster of HC stars to wear off.

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Having read your previous posts I didn’t think that you would be too happy. I respect it and that you tried to bring this up in advance (Blizzard pretty much never listens to anyone on the forums as well).

It will be interesting to see how things play out over time. In general.

Not happy with the current state of Era “PvP”

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See what happens in a month. People gotta farm rep.

It’s nothing new for people to spam to exalted and never be seen again

Happens on every fresh. Av meta into ab wsg once everyone gets exalted.

The pvp change is eras fresh.

The only other factor not predictable is the fact server wide brackets aren’t in. Which was a huge way to force metas even from just 1 premade pushing the ceiling. Now that’s not a thing, and we are not even 2 weeks in yet

i dont think this will change, why would it? rep farmers could’ve farmed rep prior to this pvp system change so why didnt they?
Even on AV weekends pre-patch where there weer actually games how much cave-afkers were there really?

easy PVP ranking killed SOM cuz everyone jus did AFK for r14 gear( which is equivalent of AQ 40 so say goodbye to non-GDKP raids) by afking in AV. Classic’s gonna go the same way

No one queued for AV for the longest time. A year ago it could be the AV bonus weekend and still, not a single match would pop.

exactly my point. the reason why there were no games being queued is cuz ppl aren’t playing it for rep lol. If they were, theyd alraedy exist.
The only change this pvp changes was the HONOR system. so the reason why the games exist now is because of EZ HONOR (not rep)

We seen this happen in SoM as well

You got it backwards, they COULDN’T get a game to pop. Plenty wanted to queue for AV but their overlords wouldn’t stand it.