Using 28 keybinds is a clicker, got it. Sorry I don’t play a class that just needs to spam 1 the win.
Some of those keybinds are macros that do multiple things. The trap is macroed to put down multiple traps based on if I’m holding CNT, alt, shift, or nothing + mouse button. I don’t macro tracking, mounts food/water, professions, exc. And I have to change what’s on my bars in some spots based on PvP, pve specific boss fights, exc. I didn’t put my pvp on use or consumables on those action bars as it uses a hold key move mouse add-on to select them based on direction I move the mouse (currently disabled for the screenshots as I wasn’t using it during screenshot)
So… 28 keybinds (not including added versatility of macros and add-ons) is still considered a clicker in your eyes…
Yesh, sorry I don’t have every action including ones I use once in a blue moon on keybinds lol.
I also find it funny your ignoring the fact I showed of the afk / leachers or the fact I showed in the screenshots how to bypass the IWB choke. By going up the hill and jumping down. Something a stealth class can easily do to bypass the IWB choke which ironically has maybe 1-3 horde at it after SPGY was soft capped. And half the time it was just me from rezing as I was intentionally skipping the fight to highlight the afk/leachers in my screenshots. (Which ironically gave them more honor at the end because I literally just ran past everything with invis potions, sidestepping fights, gnomish trinket, FD rocket helm to the back line after dismounted, exc. Which got the leachers to kill me inflating thier killing blows. I can say for that game I didn’t participate much to us winning (did help kill the final boss, and a trolling druid taunted and reset it) because I wanted as much proof of the alliance problem as possible.
So ya… It’s not the map that is the major issue here.
People get pretty passionate over this stuff. Many people are too psychologically and emotionally invested in the game to see things for what they are.
Also, I don’t world buff hunt for pve, so ya parses are low, I don’t feel like putting 3 hours of effort into world buff hunting and then not playing my character until raid. If I get it a few hours before raid I might play an alt, sorry for not being a neck beard champion for parses on content I cleared 15ish years ago. I focus more on mechanics and prefer a more laid back guild than an elitist jerks attitude guild.
Let me know when you 3 hunter aggro kite Ossirian and down him after 20 minutes with just 3 hunters up. Mechanics being done properly>any parses. I find it fun to enjoy the fight, not rush through it and swing around big D meters. Not everyone plays the game the same way I I prefer being a master at the mechanics of a fight than I do having big D meters to show off.
I’m the hunter that does the pulls, the LoS cast tricks, plays baby sitter with aggro drop mechanics to keep it off the raid, FD casts from mobs, protects the healers from lose adds, pet controls to keep pet out of bad or even eat bad to protect others with, exc. I don’t too the big D meters, I’m to busy keeping everything clean and safe so others can do that. And that’s the playstyle I enjoy.
I won’t top the big D meters even if I got world buffs, because I’m micro managing other things, that includes distracting shot being a regular part of my rotation and that eats a lot of Mana. Add spawns? I have a distracting shot on it before the tank is even moving to pick it up and I’m putting the tank between me and the add so he has a easy time picking it up. Heck I dodged 7 eye beams on my last kathune attempt with FD right before the cast finished. Saving healers much needed Mana, sadly even with all the big D meters some of my guild members do… They stack for eye beams to much still lol. And the big D metering is what has harmed our progression on every fight as every wipe we have can be attributed to tunnel visioned and died to mechanics or over aggroed and killed the raid.
I play with less skilled raiders but it’s a more friendly environment than the elitist jerks guilds I was in in the past and I prefer it.
If I cared about big D meters, I wouldn’t have rolled hunter for classic.
Also your right quite a few horde had low HK, but the sorting by least HK shows 1afk horde at the top, and the rest of the 25ish players are blue…hmmm wonder what that means.
Also I inflated those leacher numbers a bit, because as I said I was specifically running into their faces for screen shots. And they would kill me for it. I gave them at least 10 HK from it.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who see’s a problem with this. I feel like changes would only benefit the community. I think with WSG and AB out, AV needs to change. I hear from friends and guildmates on Alliance that trying to get rep is not worth it, which is a bummer because the items our 100% worth getting.
There’s a weird superiority complex with some of these horde trolls. They admit the map has issues and needs fixes but still insist on using this as a platform to rail about how bad alliance are and how awesome horde are at pvp. Despite alliance doing just fine in the other two BG’s.
Although judging by how little they seem to actually know about pvp it’s not surprising their experiences in the other two BG’s are more negative than in AV when they can’t rely on a map advantage. So it makes sense they’ll take what they can get.
I’m starting to think admitting that a large portion of their wins are handed to them by the map would be too harsh for them to face. It’s easier on the ego to make this a faction disparity.
The other funny part is you can clearly see the S key (the default key for backpedaling) is keybound to the fiegn death spell icon
Heck, half the reason I even have the other traps on my action bars (even with the macro I use) is to see if I have the Mana to cast it by glancing at the icon.
But hay, I’m clearly a clicker hero! Lol.
I was half asleep so I forgot I also have A S D keybound and - + ( and CNT -/+) are keybound, the multi shot not keybound is a rank 1 multi shot that I do manually click vs the 1 hp mobs (think silithis swarmer bug adds) and I manually click volley. I use a addon consumables eater and the GNPP and ManaP are on the bar just to show me how many are left. I use the addon select wheel to use them, not clicking lol. So I’m actually at 35 keybinds but hay I’m a dirty clicker after all. I have a miniature keyboard so it’s easier to reach the - + keys as well. Which the cnt - is set up to use my active trinket (you can see them on the upper bars, which are there to show me the CD for FD trinket swaps) and cnt + brings up my consumables selection wheel.
But I love how when I give the evidence he asked for and it supports my claims over his he turns to insults lol.
I dont have an agenda. Im not a hordie, Im not alliance. Im not married to this game - if anything Im anti-agenda. As far as being ignored, I could care less. If people want to posit that AV map changes are not only necessary but the absolute perfect fix that cures everything AV related then theyre intellectually dead to me anyway. The map is something to think about but it stops right there.
Im fine with things like a cave push back + spawn tweaks for no other reason than Im not playing vanilla AV against my server rivals. This version of AV is awful when you tally up things like the vanilla honor system, no premades, cross realm queues, etc. If we’re gonna be forced to play on what is essentially the retail version of AV they might as well have gone fully prolific with it.
So why argue against it? Well, like Ive said before, my number one issue is youre working with a theory and its being presented as the complete unadulterated truth that cant be questioned, at all, ever… Saying a 95% loss rate is 100% attributable to the map is not a credible assertion. Such an assertion is premature and only amounts to empty conjecture and groundless speculation as no valid line of reasoning has yet been established, no evidence presented and no logical framework has been constructed to back up such an assertion.
