So based on your feels gotcha
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If you want to call the testimony of a large multitude of players only feeling with their winrates, exc.
Then sure, itâs all just feels, just like yours based on your own classification of what is âfeelsâ.
this many views and replies and blizzard still hasnât responded⌠yeah they donât give AF. Sad
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Thatâs not the way reality works.
Alliance has a severe handicap. The map is a severe handicap. You wouldnât tell a person with a visual impairment that they could read an eye chart the same as someone with perfect eyesight. You wouldnât tell them they werenât trying hard enough or the other person must âwant it more.â
Thatâs not the way anything works. The very idea is an affront to logic.
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Like I said I did the math on an active respawn cycle for it all. Thatâs not feels.
Youâre claiming something I just donât believe.
I donât believe even 20 people in your so called 2,000 player PvP discord has commented on win rates.
I think you have taken what Scott said seriously without any proof, which is why your magically backing up HIS 40% claim and calling it what the majority of this so called disc have said.
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At that point they might as well do a lot of cleanup and basically duplicate IBGY by:
- Move SHB so it blocks the path north into to SHGY
- Create a dropdown behind the moved bunker so people can rez at SHGY and run south from there.
- Create a dropdown from the moved cave to the SHGY flag area.
With a few tweaks both alliance and horde have a protected rez with a narrow path past two towers/bunkers and easy fallback to a cave. Of course, now games will go on for hours, maybe days because each team can just turtle it up at SHGY/IBGY and never move.
Instead it would be better to just fix the GY fallbacks and delay the horde opening gate. You want to make it more even? Have the cliff at the IBGY rez area crumble so alliance can run right up that way too. Then both SHGY and IBGY can be assaulted in several directions.
Of course none of this is happening because Blizzard doesnât care.
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Yes its a lack of skill lol. Are we forgetting when it was a race the alliance smashed the horde every time. Even though you guys started further up the map and still had a head start you lost. All the horde did was start abusing the cave spawn and the bottleneck at SH to cheese alliance and they are running around calling it scorched earth or w/e as if its something brilliant lol.
Horde abuse a busted map and canât even admit it.
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Most of them do admit it, this thread was started by a horde player with like a thousand AV games.
Itâs just a handful of horde who canât see the big picture.
Imagine thinking a faction is better than another faction, as if itâs not the same player base.
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Iâve seen claims of 70+% alliance winrates for AV weekend on the discord. Iâve seen 15%. Most hovered around 40% similar to Scott. These forums are the only place Iâve seen people claim 10% or lower for AV weekend though.
Which makes me wonder if those people claiming under 10% are even playing AV on AV weekend.
My personal experience saw alliance at a 46% win rate for AV weekend from all AV weekends I have played in (3-5 games per weekend) since March when I learned alliance actually try on AV weekend so I started playing again for fun after the constant wins after premades got broken (because alliance pugs are infested with dead weight)
It is the same player base, but different conditions.
The map is one factor of those conditions. Que times, game duration, HPH efficiency, exc. Are other factors. You want to blame everything on the map. You see one tree and blame it for the leaves in your yard, ignoring the rest of the forest.
If you put the same type of dough and same amount with the same baking tray in the oven and you have one dough at 450* for 25 min and the other at 325* for 1 hour the bread that comes out will be different.
Itâs the same dough, but the conditions it goes through change the results. Now letâs consider using a different type of butter on the dough, a different type of baking pan with the dough more spread out as a thin crust pan vs a loaf pan, exc. The more changing factors you add and the harder it is to pin all the changes on one factor.
What do you think this proves? Even if it were a 40% winrate for alliance during AV weekend all this means is the try hard alliance that are better than the horde get on and make winning possible. It doesnât say the map is fine. It says alliance is better than horde considering how rigged the map is lol.
As i said the winrate does not mean anything. If alliance were doing to you guys what you do every game as a result of the map i would still point out the map is entirely broken.
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You havent played the BG since before premades went away. Again I will ask you, where is your data?
The majority of views and posts are from a small handful of players, and their alts.
You still have the dead weight players in those games, just less on AV weekend
Nice assumptions.
I was horde during pre-mades. Got my 60 troll priest exalted, decided I wanted to play the minority so I went alliance 1 week before phase 3. I think pre-mades were done then.
Got this mage exalted.
Got my human rogue exalted.
Then 1 week before they patched druids I got my hunter exalted.
Donât pretend to know anything about me, it just makes you look stupid.
I am now leveling my 6th 60, a dwarf pally. I will prolly not get him exalted as I can just do a gdkp to gear him up since I will be holy and itâs pretty cheap. Most runs t2 is sharded.
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Pally t2 isnât getting used in raids you do AV for the offhand. We got sarturas might now and the shield off vael isnât bad so quite frankly I think the shield is a much better option now.
I would get the shield off Vael.
Not farm AV. Never again. I did my time, got 4 of my toons exalted.
1 horde and 3 alliance.
No thats bullshyte
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If the horde also had 40 players organized and on comms, those alliance wouldnât win the race.
Nice try though
Yep, according standard quackademic alliance map theory 2 and half hours is the same as 30 sec. Doesnt come into play at all.