This would be accomplished with an earlier version of AV - one that had games lasting days. I agree, btw, the BGs that are actually competitive should be required for ranking.
Two people that I know. They’re the only two serious rankers that I actually know, to be fair. So, in other words, 100% of serious rankers that I know queue AV. They also queue WSG, but that’s besides the point.
I agree, AV was never intended to be the main route to ranking up. It was the casual pvp sandbox for nearly its entire life-span in Vanilla.
The problem is that blizz let people rank in it for far too long and people became accustomed to being rewarded in that zone.
I don’t see how AB will fix anything though. You will have to premade AB or lose, just like WSG.
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Its not beside the point. You have to address the dynamic that the queue puts on both the approach to the game, and the fact that Horde has a orders of magnitude more players.
Considering that, and the fact Horde player base is probably FULL of worse players as we are the more populated faction by far, how do we constantly, and I mean CONSTANTLY win the brawls in AV when we meet you at your graveyard, after you have an opportunity to set up?
You’re moving goalposts. You said:
I told you you were wrong.
As far as why you guys consistently win? There have been plenty of discussions on map imbalance.
You are right, I should have said ‘there are more Horde rankers in AV’.
Regardless. 9 times out of 10, you are pinned into SHGY until you crack. You get there first, you spawn there, and you still lose there.
Curious why that is.
Idk, because horde get there first and hold us in a choke where they have the advantage, then when & if we actually kill them and push their objectives they have twice the spawn rate. There’s plenty more to discuss, but it’s already been discussed numerous times.
It’s like you can’t even read. #JustZugBrainThings
We cannot get to SHGY before you. Thats the point. You get there before us, you have the high ground, and you have the spawn right behind where you could actually hold.
How do we take it from you?
Willful ignorance is pretty great, isn’t it? FOR THE HORDE!!1
How do you lose SHGY when you are reinforced faster (its your spawn!) you get there first (fact) and you have the high ground?
A better question to ask is: Why is the first fight always occurring on Alliance territory? The answer, as I said a few posts up, is because you guys beat us in the initial race to objectives.
Protip:
Do you know what the initial horde objective is?
Arathi Basin is actually fun.
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Free hint. This is the wrong mindset.
Is it fun when you’re pinned inside of Trollbane being 5 capped? Don’t get me wrong, I love AB…but I think it is silly to assume it will be anything but premade pug-stomping just like in true Vanilla fashion.
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I know what point you’re trying to make, I won’t bite. There is no reason the initial fight should happen so far into Alliance territory.
THIS is a very interesting thought. Based on the cave placement they would get double the rez rate.
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Illuminate me on what point I’m trying to make.
What do you believe is spammed in Horde chat as we roll out of the cave? What do you think the people who have played literally hundreds of games of AV on the Horde side know is the path to victory?
What is the Horde objective as the game starts?
Of course it will be.
To hold us inside SH since you arrive earlier to a choke we have to pass in order to get out of. Then you just sit there and wait to fight at an advantaged position.