WoD was where things turned sour for me, the attempted removal of flight and lies that were tied to that whole event made me unsubscribe for the first time ever. Since coming back, my heart just isn’t in it the same way, i could quit again in a heartbeat if Ion tried to pull another stunt like that.
Is also say that people are a bit more critical of everything than we use to be. Or just having places on the internet to spill dislike about something for people to read can cloud some perception of something vs haven’t read a lot of the negativity and simply experiencing it. I usually don’t notice some small issues or changes if they weren’t made out to be the worst thing ever.
It’s why I try to avoid reading any movie reviews nowadays.
it got a bit too casual friendly imo.
need a bunch of other games to play to keep entertained. dilutes the importance of wow.
you could take it away from me i wouldnt be very mad, now that i was forced to find other games to play
WoD
Literally the only time in the history of this game where I took a break and stopped playing.
Most players don’t just expect perfection, they demand it or you won’t even be included.
One mistake, maybe two and it’s over.
I haven’t!
I do take breaks for big life events.
Like I’m in my ‘downtime’ now because of work stuff, but it typically doesn’t stop me from doing the basically like weekly quests cause I can probably do weeklies + delves in 3 hours.
Delves saved the game for me. It also opened the opportunity for me to play dps and tank. I was mostly pvp/mythic+ player before and would only play heals via pugging for fast queues due to my random work schedule. With delves I’m free to play whatever spec I want when I want. Win-Win.
If delves wasn’t around I would of quit.
The first time was the tail end of Cataclysm. Due to the rather sever spec inblances at the time (Which we have seen play out again in cata classic), I essentially had to swap off my main class in favor of an alt that was simply superior despite inferior gear and lesser experience. Then, later, due to the way recruitment shook out I had to give up my main role completely. That, coupled with the obnoxiously long Dragonsoul patch burned me out on the game horrifically, to the point where by the time MoP was here I had to step away from the game because I was just getting mad when I played it.
The second time was partway through WoD. The combination of mythic difficulty being exclusively for 20 man teams and flex raiding led to the gradual decay of the group I’d played with since Wrath, culminating in my guild folding most of the way through BRF. I stuck around a bit as a PuG through HFC, but Legion was pretty intimidating to tackle alone, so after capping I stepped away again.
And finally there was Korthia. It wasn’t THAT bad to be honest, just disappointing. But that happening alongside the…real life circumstances for Blizzard at the time made it a hard sell to keep playing, especially when my partner was desperate to have me try FFXIV.
I’ve been thinking about making a casual guild in mop that would put the old ways of treating each other as our guild charter.
The only rules would be to be kind and helpful to each other.
Zero tolerance for demeaning or insulting each other beyond anything more than friendly teasing.
Guild events would include raiding and a once a week gurubashi arena last man standing contest. The winner gets something like a max slot bag or whatever.
LFG dungeon messed up everything I love the game and content it is always good but I have been playing less and less because people pretty much people stop doing anything together. I find it hard to find people to talk in chat anymore. I switched to classic for a while and I truly love the feel of community but the problem with classic content it is not new and you know when the cap is coming for raids.
I didnt.
I am one of those people when I dislike a game, I move on. I dont make my dislike of something my entire personality.
When a very small sect of the (admittedly already shrinking )community decided to gate it off and effectively shut down the social aspects of the game.
tbh i genuinely do not know what you are referring to here
My favorite part of a thread like this is the sheer preponderance of posters who will read that sentence and be compelled to post how this statement does not apply to them rather than just ignore the thread as something that isn’t relevant to their experience. It is a phenomenon that really gets at the heart of the quality of these forums.
When Shadowlands ended. I’m one of the twelve people who actually enjoyed that expansion. Then came Dragonflight, an enormous letdown, and now TWW which so far is just… meh at best.
If I wasn’t raiding with my guild I wouldn’t be playing aside from the fact that I like playing with the economy on a new expac launch. M+ is boring, I don’t want to run the same dungeons over and over. This is coming from someone who has pushed for 2.5-3k io in the past. I don’t like PVP and world content is dull after you’ve done it a few times. I also feel like the playerbase has gotten more impatient and toxic over the past few expansions. The only breath of life I’ve had when it comes to wow is the initial release of hardcore classic a few years ago. Hardcore classic made me feel like a kid experiencing WoW for the first time again.
Its still relevant to the thread.
Per the OP.
So its fine.
Yep. Uh-huh.
Probably the same for everyone. When it stopped becoming a “friend” game are starting becoming a FOMO game.
I still have goals in mind but wrestling myself free from things I think I need to do is a critical part of actually enjoying the game.
OP goes into M+ threads asking, where the thread there is asking for changes. And suggests m+ be deleted. And claims its fine because his post is talking about m+, which is what the thread is about.
So as long as a reply can be loosely used to tie in the OP here, we good.
Cause I mean. This side track conversation has less to do with what the OP said than the people you are referring to.