Assa AND sub rogue are the best melee in game and are completely disgusting. If you even think arms is anywhere comparable to them you are so far out from reality there is no saving you.
“subs is bad they are completely useless outside of their 3 minute go” -
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average DF melee
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There is no excuse for a sub rogue to single target out dps an arms warrior with how insane their kit and control is.
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Struggling with a tough foe? Remember, just keep your Health above 0 while lowering your enemy’s Health to 0. Works every time!
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You mistyped rouge
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Insert “That’s the joke” gif from the Simpsons
You mean “Average DH”
Saw a tabloid with Chevy chase on it and the headline was “I’VE GOT THE SHAKES”. My phone deleted my archived copy it seems 
it’s a good thing literally only one class can be overtuned at a time, would really suck if others were overtuned at the same time
I actually find sub rogues to be a real PITA in shuffle more so then assa. A good sub feels like they are inevitable and go for cheeky duel 100-0’s. They also don’t flop fast if they play well and are triple vanish nelfs.
ez 2-6 games.
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You’re 100% correct. Why the Hell can a class single-handed control the pacing of an entire map, do all their own setup (on the entire enemy team), then pop out stealth and do nearly unhealable damage (while you can’t even shake them because of seemingly infinite gap closers andbwhat feels like a permanent 70% slow)–all the while having a kit that allows them to just… escape enemy reaction?
Rogues have to screw up 3x more than the enemy to not win. Which would be fine if their damage was neutered to reflect being middle of the pack output for melee. But Sin, and even Sub’s current damage profile is insanely stupid.
Everyone from R1 glads down to beginners despises the class, and every season Blizzard makes them Gods. I honestly should just stop healing and start playing one, at least every season I could play my damn main without handicaps.
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Sub shouldn’t have 2 charges of step or 2 charges of vanish. Same with assa having 2 charges of step. Having the freedom to do a setup at any given moment is a bit too ridiculous right now.
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Rogue players are bad people.
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don’t lump my pirate into this
outlaw is king because sword mogs are best anyway
who thinks daggers look good in 2023?
OK you’re good, Varick is good, drawing a blank for any others.
My rogue is combat
i wish killing spree was a true CD that actually did damage. i don’t think it’s terrible to use now but it should be the CD imo
Sub is overpowered in every way except sustained dps, where they are the worst in the game. Sustained DPS is all that matters in shuffle.
With all this being said, the rogue community is ready to swap back to sub and play it as is. I think you can shelve Assa with some nerfs for now. This is because the two specs both use mastery so there’s no hostage community on Assa except for twos, and nobody cares about 2s.
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