As a Non-LFR Player - Slime Cat SHOULD be in LFR

But the mage tower mount is not limited edition

I honestly see it at this point, as ian only caring about the elitist jerks. I mean, the name of his guild. Those are the only types of players who deserve anything i guess. Casual players can go jump off a bridge and not get anything is how i see it.

Like why does an elitist have to be the wow director. Just so casual, non elitist jerk players get nothing i guess. And why can’t phil spencer fire this dude. Ian seems to only care about the elitist jerk players that play this game. It is that simple.

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no way. keep it out of lfr.

I mean, if casual players were going to get nothing in season 4 of shadowlands. Why could ian and his team have just said that.

Instead, they left the wording of the achievement, stating just complete the raids, indicating any difficulty, on the PTR and alpha for ever. People formulated the Euphoria of getting the mount for a while to at that point. Then, those players got stabbed.

It is fine to be told no. It is not fine to make the answer be yes, and then the answer being no. I honestly feel like if the wording stayed like that all the way to the bloody PTR, and it was being publicly bloody tested, we had every right to believe the casual players would have a shot at the gooey saber in LFR. End of story.

But no. Instead, it is like being told you are getting the thing you wanted for christmas, and then, oh heck no. Like at least say, no, you ain’t getting jack from the get go. Like ok. Cool. To heck with christmas. Still upset. But not as upset as I would be being lied to and bloody deceived.

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I don’t think the whole wow community is going to be satisfied with getting the mount out
Edit: I mean that as they said before only the guilds will benefit

There are already plenty of things that encourage people to go into normal. The alternate mogs, the stronger equipment. There’s already an issue with more solo players feeling forced to do organized group content in M+ and Normal+ raids, bait and switching folks with a mount isn’t needed.

Reasons, I can think of, why people don’t play raids past lfr:

  1. IRL Obligations making raiding on a set schedule difficult
  2. Not being in a ‘progression’ guild but more of a friend group guild and having pugging anxiet
  3. Not wanting to boost
  4. Not having a high enough ilvl so getting booted
  5. Not having enough experience with the raids mechanics past lfr so getting booted
  6. Not having AOTC and getting booted
  7. Not being hyper optimized and not wanting to change specs/talents so getting booted
  8. Having some form of impairment, and not wanting to feel like your holding people back
  9. Having some form of impairment so not ‘doing enough dps’ and getting booted
  10. Being unable to see all the ground mechanics and such and so not being able to survive fights and getting booted (there’s quite a few mechanics I have trouble seeing ESPECIALLY in First Ones, let alone SoD)
  11. People demanding loot funnels or kick/etc (I experienced this in the past when I tried raiding back in MoP, even got booted for healing TOO good as restosham and messing up the 2 druid’s rotations which was dumb)

And those are off of the top of my head of things that can/do happen in Normal+ that tend not to happen in LFR unless it’s like: dps qued as tank, and doesn’t have the gear for it or afk folks

Slime cat having been Normal+ from the start, none of this would have mattered. Them at the last minute after months of saying ANY RAID DIFFICULT is a bit problem. And then trying to shill that ‘they might just want more people in x’ is horrible. They shouldn’t be using bait and switch tactics (which, mind you, is illegal) to try and pressure people into raid content.

MMO means you play with other people, sure, but that doesn’t mean you should be FORCED into massive group content that puts alot of stress on you. People play games for fun, not to stress or treat it like a second job!

Also, for the record here a bait and switch is as follows:

A “bait and switch” takes place when a seller creates an appealing but ingenuine offer to sell a product or service, which the seller does not actually intend to sell.

Which is EXACTLY what happened here, and was used to bolster subs toward the end of an expansion. It wouldn’t be hard, at all, for people to demand a refund with how things were advertised to get them to stay subscribed, and that being changed right before they could get the thing that was advertised to them but after Bliz got their money. It wouldn’t be hard, at all, for a lawyer to win a lawsuit over this, and with the sheer numbers of people saying they resubbed specifically cause they could get the mount out of LFR…well, class actions cost more than just reimbursing the class of peoples that sue.

Amen!

I am doing it the normal way anyhow, but would be happy with the changes for players that do LFR.

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Why does it need to be consistent? Why didn’t you complain the the tome came out and wasn’t free? I like how they’re diversifying.

It’s an mmo. God forbid they don’t include solo content in a 6 month patch that was just put in to avoid content drought. I agree the ZM content should have been raised and motes for the mounts reduced though.

You have any idea how easy it’s going to be to do normal in like 1 month once everyone gets those free welfare epics (dinar) and just doing a +2 in their vault?

It’ll get stomped, but everyone needs their damn cat asap so they can complain about having nothing to do.

Grow up. Please.

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