As a Community, we do not want RDF

Is there a reason you continue to ignore this? It debunks every counter point you continue to spew.

What this is saying, based off the “logic” presented, is that WoW would continue to do updates if everyone simply bought the Expansion and did not pay for a single month of subscription. Again, weak logic.

The ONLY troll here is YOU.

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What logic presented? I just said something that could be factually true. You have no idea if it is or not. Wrath, with 12m subs, would have made 480,000,000 dollars just from the box price if it cost 40 dollars not counting deluxe or collector editions. What is the price of the patches and the development of Cata?

which means this:

Which is entirely ridiculous, isn’t it? That’s what you’re saying.

We agree here, there is zero logic presented, that’s why I put it in quotations.

It could be, but what is also true is this, which you’ve ignored for 3 posts now:

You’re hung up on the word “make” and “made”. You’re missing the forest for the trees by getting yourself hung up into this weird fallacious semantics battle. Here’s what you need to focus on:

Your $15 a month = the game continued production
No $15 a month = the game ceases production

What are you not understanding still?

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Examples of you arguing against something im not saying making my argument for me to attack.

Also, the last part saying there is zero logic presented, that kind of destroys your own argument that you are using my own logic against me if there is no logic used.

Thanks for showing this entire back and forth was a complete and utter wasted of time.

Prove it. I asked for numbers. How much was the production costs for the patches of wrath and the development for cata?

Nope, further examples of me using deductive reasoning to follow your logic to it’s conclusions. What you present now is further examples of you using deflection to distance yourself from the logical conclusion you led us to. It hasn’t worked for 20 posts now, and it still hasn’t.

Your logic has zero logic, but that doesn’t mean you can’t still follow it to its conclusions. Do you know what logic is?

https://press.rebus.community/intro-to-phil-logic/chapter/chapter-1/

If it’s such a waste of time, why are you still here? I found it useful for the onlooking audience.

Prove it? What do you think businesses are Kelliste? How does a product get made? Do I really need to link more sources about what businesses are and how products get made?

More than $0, which means that you paying $15 a month ensures the game continues production, whereas if you didn’t, the game would cease production. How many times do I have to repeat this for you?

But you said there was zero logic, so how can you use something that doesnt exist?

Already answered…

Next?

Thats not answered. Zero logic means there is no logic to be used, so you are just left with your own logic. Also

provides nothing to the discussion, and

is just a claim with no support. You cant say this is true without knowing the production costs of what you are saying this contributes to.

By your logic, you are saying that WoW is the most expensive game ever made and it costs more than 2 billion dollars to produce cataclysm.

I’m sorry you can’t read.

More toxicity from the pro-RDF bullies.

This has been answered. So you don’t know what logic is? Please read the source I provided.

YOUR logic HAS ZERO LOGIC. That doesn’t change the fact that it’s YOUR LOGIC.

Yes it does. As long as Wow costs more than $0 to maintain and develop, that means you pay for the game to be made. As I’ve had to tell you many times now, if the players stopped paying $15 a month, the game wouldn’t be continued, because the game costs money to continue, and businesses aren’t in the business of losing money. What do you still fail to understand?

It’s a claim in the same way that claiming the sky is blue is a claim. It’s a claim that doesn’t need much support because its obvious that companies, businesses, and products need to make money to continue.

https://www.imaginationfactory.co.uk/blog/post/3968/Idea-to-Product-in-5-Steps/
This should be useful for you.

Please elaborate how my logic says any of that. I’ll wait for this one, should be amusing.

Im just using what you said, you said zero logic was used so all that is left if your logic.

No, we dont. I have no say in the development of the game, so im not paying for the game to be made, im paying for an already made product and to be able to play it.

No, your logic has zero logic to is. What are you not understanding here?

Yes, you do.

You’ve never heard of the phrase vote with your wallet? Why is there a forums? Why do we have suggestion forums? Why do we have suggestion boxes?

Without your $15 a month, they wouldn’t continue to make the game, so we thank you for your contribution.

And if you stopped paying $15 a month, the game would stop updating. Thank you for your contribution.

Which means what exactly? If my logic has zero logic there is no logic to be used. So no matter how you keep trying to explain it you are saying there is zero logic. So we are just left with your logic which means you fabricated the argument to attack for whatever reason. Trolling most likely.

Yes, that means you dont buy the product. Why would I buy DF if I dont like the direction its going to vote with my wallet through gametime? Makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Apparently for people to troll on and for Blizzard to ignore.

How do you know that? Other mmo’s are made without a subscription model that continue to get developed and expansions made.

Which means its bad logic? Like extraordinarily bad that it almost doesn’t count as logic? I think you really should read the source I sent you before continuing to talk about things you have zero understanding of.

And it also means you have say in how the product gets developed, that’s what voting means. Please, don’t force me to explain what voting means.

You have gotten quite a few posts in, to your credit.

Because that’s how businesses work? If no one is playing the game, why would they continue to develop it?

Zero logic means the absence of logic so how can you use something against me that you say doesnt exist?

No it doesnt. That just means I dont get the product that is already made.

Im not trolling.

So its not actually the 15 dollars a month, its the interest that drives the continued development using the previous box sales.

How does it feel losing to BOTH me AND Bloomsday in a debate on the same thread?

Huffing the copium juice again? Quit trolling, its not a good look.

Because YOUR LOGIC has ZERO LOGIC. What about this are you not understanding? I can follow your logic, even if it has zero logic. The conclusion to your logic proves that it has zero logic, which is one tactic for disproving logic.

Again, this is all stuff you’d know if you’d read the source I gave you, or any of the posts I’ve already made for that matter. Reading isn’t your strong suit, is it?

Yes it does. If enough people vote with their wallet, it leads to product changes. That’s quite literally what “vote with your wallet” means. Is this just another thing you have no comprehension of?

Wrong again.

https://www.investedinterests.com/2021/12/11/vote-with-your-wallet-2/

It is of my opinion that you are.

And how do people show their interest in Classic WoW? THEY PAY THE $15 A MONTH!

Hallelujah, you learned something after 100 posts!