I don’t care that I face ally premades in AV. We’ve won a couple. Whatever.
But all of you saying Horde can do AV premades are incorrect. Alliance are able to do them because they have no queue times and can sync up because of it.
There seems to be absolutely no way to queue as any size group for Horde. We’ve tried it with 30 people, at the same time, and tried to queue both for specific AVs and first available. We even tried staggering them once we saw queues would pop as much as 2 minutes apart.
The most we ended up with in one game was 3 people from that raid group. We exhausted all the ideas we had.
The 5v1 and 10v1 wpvp experience has certainly gotten you used to a massive horde bias and advantage.
Probably #nochanges
Maybe something about those faction based transfers that you and many others refused to take, not taking those meant you were 100% content with 5v1 and 10v1 stomping random people just trying to go to BRD.
Also like to let you know that its 15-25 on average with the occasional ~30 and never 36-40.
It’s a strawman to assume I’m talking about 100% when I’m talking about the super majority.
100% of alliance aren’t stomping in premades and definitely not 100% of alliance are winning all their games either. But you guys are talking about the super majority.
So it’s easier for most horde to be successful in world pvp because of superior numbers and its easier for most alliance to organize in bg’s because of inferior numbers.
Sounds like you need to pick your poison Jack. Can’t expect to be on the winning side of both ends of the spectrum.
Honestly, yes. I went alliance expecting it to be an uphill battle trying to farm gold in the world, competing for resources, getting to an instance or raid. That is what “I” get for playing the race that I chose.
I quite literally prefaced the whole thing saying I dont care that Allys can do this. It’s their advantage, whatever.
Also, I may be on the majority globally but on my server its balanced. 33 ally guilds cleared MC to 30 horde. Its not a big picture but gives you an idea.
Just letting those know that Horde cant just ‘make your own premades’. And if it can be done it’s not widely known.
Some Alliance think every Horde should pay because a handful of servers were imbalanced. Horde told them to roll pve servers if they didn’t like pvp servers. If I could “roll pve” to get to be able to queue AV with my husband, I’d be all over it. And by “pve” I don’t mean Alliance (my husband hates them)
For the record, that isn’t where I am coming from. Personally it sounds like we want to try and homogenize everything so everyone has the same experience. So everyone could have all of the advantages enjoyed by both factions.
This type of thinking is what lead to change after change which would take away from the flavor of classic which is why we all signed up to take this wild ride.
Whats wrong with just chalking it up as win some lose some and being ok with that?
Grouping with other players is one of the best parts of wow. It’s what makes an mmo. If anything, wow was at its peak when you could full premade an av.
