You have a link or way to prove this that is recent???
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I somehow doubt this theory, over the years of running timewalking on twink characters I got over 99% positive feedback from players thanking me for the runs.
https://imgur.com/a/n0k20H2
All of this is just random players when I solo queue on my xp off timewalk characters, and only a fraction of the positive feedback I got.
This can be true but if you have been running for 16+ years like I have, you also know that’s a bold faced half-truth. PLENTY of people complain and leave constantly, name-call and curse at you just for being a twink, which could easily be perceived by blizzard as affecting others experience. And we already know their stance on vote to kick, being that “any reason is a valid reason”.
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Perhaps you have not seen the huge thread on this forum complaining about twinks. i have no doubt they have been reported many times. I have encountered only one truly hostile person in hundreds/thousands of runs. So i left the group, i might of told them i hope you enjoy spending 40 minutes in here with this guy more than spending 5 minutes with me 
I have had twink characters since a level 39 warrior in Wrath, island expedition twinks in BFA, various timewalking twinks at max level with old items over the years, and now the MoP remix style low level twinks. Less than 5 total negative experiences with pugs and mostly minor too. I get way worse experiences in solo shuffle and mythic plus, way more frequently.
People being mad about fast dungeons is extremely small % of people.
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Ok serious question, and I don’t want anyone banned because I tank my Tw and we fly through them at max.
But seriously why do people want to twink at 11 and blow through Timewalking? If the only reason is to sell runs, attempt to charge for runs, or level friends super fast then I think I can see why Blizz is against it.
I have seen this thread and it’s got some familiar names that are contrarian trolls on many issues in the forums.
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Xp nerfs aka the nerfs to premade groups with a level locked toon.
People were exploiting to remove the debuff.
There have been countless posts about it now reiterating this. And avoiding the xp nerf was one of the reasons that kept popping up.
i have had twinks since vanilla and it is the same for me at 11 as it is at 80. I strive to be perfect, bis whatever you want to call it. all in all it is the same at 11 as it is at 80. Say a normal 11 has twenty stats then a twink has 200 stats, so the yare 10 times more powerful. At 80 a fresh 80 might have 10,000 stats and a twinked out mythic toon will have 50,000 stats so they are 5 times more powerful. So at 11 you can end up being very powerful. In the old days we had twink wars in battlegrounds that were a blast but now thats just a classic thing. The only place to go with 11’s is pve/tw. So for me running twing dungeons on my twink is farming a piece of gear or badges for the new mounts because running tw on my 80’s is like watching paint dry
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Hey, if it’s legal, it’s legal.
You are still allowed to queue timewalking with XP off.
What you are not allowed to do, is manually queue in with a friend, in such a way that your friend doesn’t get the experience debuff.
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- I agree with the fact M+ hating is significantly worse.
- You should read around to the more current climate because a lot of people have been hating twinks since the change of 20th anniversary slapping everyone together how it has. Especially with players not following “game etiquette” and pulling everything in sight allowing the rest of the team to die while the twink clears bosses super far ahead preventing others from looting etc.
- Most of the people I know that have been banned run hundreds to thousands of runs per week, and drag paid alt accounts on follow for TW badge farming and gear trading, which massively increases the number of reports they receive.
- I also know a slew of people who were avoiding XP, boosting, along with other things that were NOT banned. Which makes all of this nonsense incredibly inconsistent. We also know of people who are new and did basically nothing at all besides run TW normally that WERE banned.
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I did it to farm timewalking badges during the anniversary event.
I like to play efficiently. And due to the change in scaling with timewalking, playing efficiently now looks very different.
Rewind to MoP remix. Level 20 twinks on trial accounts were hard carrying dungeons and raids. This was also chromie time scaling.
Up until patch 11.0.5, timewalk twinks were max level players, using old legendary items, low level items with sockets, certain trinkets with good scaling at low levels, etc.
A solid timewalking twink before patch 11.0.5 was maybe up to 5 times stronger than a normal max level player in end game gear.
Blizzard then blue posted something along the lines of “We are making changes to timewalking scaling to better control the difficulty by switching to Chromie time scaling.”
They clearly forgot how that played out in MoP Remix with all the level 20 trial accounts carrying max level players.
Then shortly after the changes, they put out a hotfix “Increased all mob health in timewalking dungeons by 66%.”
Now that change made twinks 66% more ‘required/important/efficient’ however you want to word it. Now not only was scaling against you at max level, but an additional 66% health to slog through.
Now people that already had years of experience running low level twinks through dungeons adapted them for timewalking. Suddenly now a level 11 fury warrior could be up to 50 times the strength of a max level players.
This was a huge lose lose situation really. Old twinks at max level with talent trees and years of interesting / old / unobtainable items became obsolete, and got replaced by boring, one button, setup-in-a-day twinks. This is more boring to play, and more overpowered in the timewalking dungeons. So blizzard failed to “better control the difficulty” and instead made it scale worse, and then a 66% health penalty to slow down non twink groups, while twinks continue to one shot things.
The old timewalking twinks were much better balanced and much more interesting, and really blizzard have 2 options here.
Either they revert to the old scaling that was much more suitable for groups (much less able to solo them at 191% speed like an 11 fury war)… or they put the work in for fixing chromie time scaling properly.
Chromie time scaling is a huge factor in new players quitting wow (and not talking about timewalking here). Go level a character with questing in chromie time, and feel how much weaker you get every level. Mobs take LONGER to die as you level up. Elites start becoming nearly impossible or flat out one shot you as you level up.
The entire psychology of leveling up in an MMO is “You advanced one level. You have grown stronger.” Then you get addicted to leveling up.
Wow doesn’t have this with chromie time scaling. You lose power as you level. It happened in MoP remix too. Tanks would just get one shot after level 60 in normal dungeons, while level 20s took no damage.
Either they put some effort in to fixing chromie time scaling or they should just revert to the scaling from pre-11.0.5.
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Very good read, agree 100%
I have to say I enjoyed having all my tanks BIS for the old timewalking where you got leveled down. So I definitely see where you’re coming from and if people were enjoying that crazy OP play for fun it’s a bummer when Blizz takes that away.
Glad you understand, to be fair we can destroy tw on our twinked 80’s also. You just rarely see full mythic toons there because they have no reason to be there.
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no we don’t. they do not need to address every half baked theory people here cook up. you will not be banned for playing xp off characters. nobody has been banned for this. it’s not forbidden in any way.
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You would be wrong there but its ok to be a blizzard fan boy. Surely they have never made any mistakes
If they were doing that, they would simply remove the ability to turn XP off at all.
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Yes. If that’s all you are doing, and nothing else that is clear exploitation, then you are fine.
Folks running twinks with their experienced turned off is not the reason that folks are reporting getting banned.
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