That’s not feasible though. The impact a change will have on the meta is impossible to predict.
See AV changes.
Let’s learn from that. Any change which may impact the meta should be tossed in the trash immediately.
Probably most useful for events and competitions like the Classic Dueler’s League has been putting on.
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Not so much that it will actually be noticable by anyone ever. The percentage of active PvPers participating in war games will be extremely low.
Hmm… That sounds familiar. I feel like similar things have happened in recent history. If memory serves it didn’t turn out very well.
Im not sure i would say addition, not in the sense of Hey they just went and added something.
It appears to be something that was sitting here the entire time, just no one had bothered to look and try.
Classic runs on the BFA base code, someone forgot to turn off that part.
Someone might not let him into their skirmish…
…Oh wait
That happened in vanilla too LOL
This sounds like a dumb idea. Why would horde fight their own faction, and vice versa?
If Blizzard said they were going to make Classic close to vanilla, initially this was true. Especially when they only temporarily used layering for server population spikes at launch, then removed it later. However, this “wargames” feature goes against that. There were no wargames in vanilla.
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So much truth spoken.
And now brought it back…
And now this.
They don’t care about replicating it anymore. It’s obvious.
Let me guess, instead of making more servers and having vanilla population caps, they just use the retail population caps and less servers? Then add layering to compensate. It’s all about the money!
They don’t care about replicating it anymore. It’s obvious.
That goes against this too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcZyiYOzsSw
I was expecting to go back in time and experience vanilla just like it was. The layering thing was only temporary though…initially.
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Agreed.
I don’t necessarily agree with this, though.
The experience is something unique to every individual. I think recreating the game is different than recreating the experience.
So… not #nochanges, but #somechanges.
That was battlegrounds, not wargames.
Stop being dishonest.
Exactly, so make no changes rather than trying to pick and choose which changes should be implemented based on every different person’s very different expectations for what Classic should be.
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#nochanges is an idea. It’s not really meant to be taken so literally. If it was you’d be seeing people screaming about colorblind mode. Of course, we don’t complain about that because that’s insane.
Yes, I’ve said the same thing myself. I agree the risk of tainting the vanilla experience is too great most of the time.
War games won’t touch the meta though. They cannot change how honor is gained, how rep is gained, how PvP rewards are earned. Your character comes out of the war game exactly as they were before they entered. It’s completely isolated. It gives something to players without taking away from the vanilla experience.
It’s pretty clear. No changes means no changes. You can’t be in favor of changes and still say you support the idea of no changes.
I’m opposed to any and ALL changes.
I’d gladly sacrifice colorblind mode for an authentic Classic.
Neither would transmog or the barber shop. Still gonna give a big ‘no’ to those features, too, though.
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Fool!
Mak’Gora!
What are you? A pretend Horde?
Well, actually, you’d be wrong, as there were, and ladder matches.
We just did not need any special mechanic to pull it off because there was no crossrealm battlegrounds at the time.
You just needed to be on a realm that did activities like that.
Now the same faction part, no, we did not have.
Be kind of funny if we did, but i doubt it would have been used a lot, and probably wont be now.
I doubt the whole thing will see wide use period
Actually, transmog would impact the meta. There would be a shift in the market for sure. Prices on items with popular appearances would most certainly go up significantly. Certain dungeons would be farmed for no other reason than for armor appearances.
Transmog would absolutely have a noticeable impact on the vanilla experience. No doubt about it.
The barber shop would as well. It would have an impact on the inflation rate as it would provide an additional gold sink which never existed in vanilla.
The same things cannot be said of war games. They’re entirely isolated. They’re basically like enhanced duels. They don’t effect the meta or anyone’s vanilla experience in any way whatsoever.
Casual PvPers no longer queuing for BGs and instead doing Wargames with their friends won’t impact the meta of PvP ranking?
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I think they have already started that, with out knowing that wargames
has been in the client this entire time
And the change in the meta would obviously be exacerbated by allowing them an outlet for PvP without being matched against rankers.
I think there’s a few number of casual PvPers who continue to queue for BGs that would no longer do so with wargames present.
No, it hasn’t. Check my previous posts.
I’m not, you are, and purposely pretending to be extremely dense as well.
Fool!
Mak’Gora!
Honestly, I never heard of the term Mak’Gora until I watched Saurfang face off against Sylvanas. It’s just that killing your own faction would mean less horde/alliance to fight the other faction.
I mean, in a war, you don’t fight or kill your allies/friends, you fight or kill the enemy.
EDIT: Doing some reading, it seems that it was a fight to the death initially, until Thrall changed those rules to a fight for honor. Although in a battleground, you will be killing your own faction. (https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mak%27gora)
Well, actually, you’d be wrong, as there were, and ladder matches.
We just did not need any special mechanic to pull it off because there was no crossrealm battlegrounds at the time.
Hmm, must have been before my time, or hadn’t noticed it. I started WoW in September 2005 as alliance doing PVE and raiding. Then switched back to Horde in 2006, where I had my nose in AV most of the time.
Says your profile is hidden, so i can not check what ever post it is you want me to guess at seeing
Find the patch notes where it said wargames were added in Patch 1.5.
I’ll wait.
Edit: Here, I’ll just give you this.
Wargames were added in Phase 4. They were not in Classic until recently.