Are the match game world quests REALLY so important to the time played metric

Iandore-thrall · November 21, 2019, 6:37pm

… that they not only had to break the ones that help you do the quest but that the quest cannot be completed with the addons active?

That is assuming going into the quest doesn’t crash the game outright instead of just forcing you to be stuck inside it until you restart the game and unload the addon.

When someone in my guild told me about this, I thought it was too absurd to be true, but yet there it is.

HERE, READ:

Iandore:

I would like to thank the public school system for failing each and every one of you. I would also like to thank them for not letting you people be able to read basic english. I would like to thank them for inculcating you with such mindless egoism that you have to resort to personal attacks just to maintain your delusions of grandeur once the real world hits you square on your behind.

Here is what is going on, and I can’t dumb this down further:
I have an addon installed for world quests, and this one includes a helper. The addon was broken so hard that the game would crash, freeze, or totally lock up to the point I needed to reset. I simply assumed, and correctly, that the part of the api the addon relied on was changed to make the “time played metric” harder to circumvent.

Nowhere did I say I had some impediment, nowhere did I say that I was lesser than you or needed to be attacked and scapegoated for the sake of your egos. you simply saw an opportunity to attack and took it regardless if it was even there in the first place. I have not been outed as anything, but you have done a wonderful job outing yourselves.

Iandore:

once more, this “reading comprehension” is heartbreaking. some teachers will have a lot to answer for.

Ok, I doubt this will be enough, so let me “simply” this for you.

time played metric is what the game is based on.

wq list addon makes the utterly terrible wq system palatable by giving you a list on the world map of all wqs available, and you can click them to save them for later. also includes some helper weakaura-like systems to help make wq faster. for “shell game” you can click pictures to help remember where everything is.

going into the “shell game” wq with world quest list loaded causes the game to outright crash, lock you into the menu with nothing clickable until you relog, or makes the quest be uncompleteable so you are locked into the menu unable to move until you relog.

very clearly this functionality was “cheating” and so had to be broken so hard it makes the game softlock even trying to do the quest with the addon installed.

I don’t think I can “simplify” that further.

TL;DR
SOFTLOCKS BAD

Dusk-zuljin · November 21, 2019, 6:38pm

Are they really that difficult? I have legit ADHD, actually diagnosed, and even my terrible short-term memory makes shell game effortless.

Hamstar-draktharon · November 21, 2019, 6:39pm

Are you talking about shell game or the bejeweled clone? Because um, those are so fast and easy that they are my favorite WQs.

Iandore-thrall · November 21, 2019, 6:41pm

shell game. the addon “world quest list” which includes a shell game helper built in either causes the game to outright crash if you go into the quest with the addon loaded or will prevent the world quest from being completed (you just get stuck on the blank page graphic until you force the window closed or relog).

Wariya-stormrage · November 21, 2019, 6:43pm

I prefer that over turtles

Onlinecutie-thrall · November 21, 2019, 6:43pm

I didn’t even know there was an addon to help with shell game.

Eret-hyjal · November 21, 2019, 6:43pm

The match game is not difficult… Because you need an addon to do a simple WQ… it pads the “time played” metric if you dont have it?

Please tell me you do not need an addon for loh.

Lugg-moknathal · November 21, 2019, 6:45pm

Yea shellgame isn’t hard but its boring. Unless it drops an upgrade for a fresh 120 I don’t mess with it.

Hamstar-draktharon · November 21, 2019, 6:47pm

But then that has nothing to do with the WQ and is a matter for the add-on author…

Hamstar-draktharon · November 21, 2019, 6:48pm

It is literally a take on a time old match game. It is one of my favorite WQs and I always stop by to do them. I doubt I have ever had it take more then a minute.

Iandore-thrall · November 21, 2019, 6:48pm

there isn’t. it is part of a very common wq addon. one I can barely be without as it gives a list of all wqs so I don’t have to use blizzard’s ghastly interface.

now this is apparently speeding up things too much so it had to be broken.

the strange personal attacks, going after me for things I didn’t even say is par for the course on this forum though.

Pinar-stormrage · November 21, 2019, 6:48pm

I’m sorry you need help with shell game. Really I am.

Iandore-thrall · November 21, 2019, 6:50pm

blizzard has broken so many addons in the past. it gives an overlay where you can write down what item was under what shell, it is baked into the addon.

this level of… reading comprehension… is heartbreaking. but as usual:

Pikkarg-bleeding-hollow · November 21, 2019, 6:50pm

It’s just not fun. It doesn’t matter how much time it takes. For many of us it isn’t fun.

Eret-hyjal · November 21, 2019, 6:51pm

You are stating breaking an addon (that blizzard hasnt stated they broke) is important to a time played metric. Many pointed its not. That is not a personal attack.

Hamstar-draktharon · November 21, 2019, 6:51pm

Yes, so your issue is with the addon creator not updating it. Blizzard also does break the abilities of certain addons to effectively cheat. Not sure why you have an issue with that.

Hamstar-draktharon · November 21, 2019, 6:52pm

Except it is fun. If it isn’t fun to you then I recommend not doing it.

Puppy-eredar · November 21, 2019, 6:53pm

I don’t think this issue warrants declaring the sky is falling. It takes maybe a solid 1 minute of your in-game time.

Dusk-zuljin · November 21, 2019, 6:53pm

I will admit I glossed over OP. I see what he’s trying to say now…

He’s basically claiming that Blizzard broke World Quest List over Shell Game to increase their time played metric, not that Shell Game is itself difficult and he needs the solver to complete it quickly

Regardless this is a mod author issue

Jalanilí-moon-guard-4790 · November 21, 2019, 6:54pm

Blizzard does looooove their tedious little mini-games, and definitely has been known to break addons that trivialize the thrill of turning over shells or tracking a barrel darting across the screen because heaven forbid you don’t want to have to spend more time than you have to doing it for the five-hundredth time because the Emissary is up and it’s the last Tortollan quest that you can even do on the continent.

That having been said, though…the crash sounds like maybe the addon needs updating?