Are Nightborne fun?

We as players are right there helping burn it down, its the first thing to happen after the events of us joining too. which just made the nightborn come across as really hipocritical.

That’s not true, Tyrande voiced her concern, a very well justified concern about how does Tyrande know Thalyssra won’t just be the same as the others, but despite that concern she decides to give her the benifit of the doubt and trusts her. The fact Tyrande chooses to trust her despite their history is huge. People love to try and put words in her mouth but in actual fact Tyrande was very civil.

Tyrande was very much there to help, hot headed and compassionate are Tyrande’s defining features, she thinks with her heart and acts quickly on what she feels is right. Most of the time it works out well for her because she has enough skill to pull it off.

The void elves however, I fully agree, they are the worst literally pulled out of thin air and make no sense. But just because void elves were done even worse, dosen’t mean the Nightborn story was handled well.

Tyrande was pretty civil with them other than the one comment about possibly becoming the next Ellisande, which is a VERY valid point. Also the Nightelves were actually the more proactive ones, their faction leader was personally on the frontlines, they did just as much as the bloodelves in the fight, AND they gave them the Arc’andor, which is the only reason they still exist.

All that said joining the bloodelves does make sense, theres a lot of reasons to join them, primarilly that they both stand to benifit greatly from eachothers arcane mastery.

Joining the horde isn’t the issue, the issue is how it was written, and that the first thing the horde did after the joined was genociding the nightelves which overall makes the Nightborn come across as petty, ungrateful and psychotic.

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Yes. Much fun.

:smirk: :kissing_heart: :wink:

Cool, but aside from the player character potentially, literally zero Nightborne were in the burning.

What? So she waged this whole campaign to free Suramar and stop Elisande.

And then you think it’s civil to accuse her of being like them?

They already fought side by side with each other, i have zero clue what this thinking process is.

She was distasteful of them even in world quests.

It was a good story.

And although i think they are neutral, them being Horde does not necessarily mean anything.

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Tyrande voiced that concern when they first met, and it was resolved when Tyrande gave her the benifit of doubt and decided to trust her. From that point on they worked together perfectly fine.

No she wasn’t. Quote it directly or stop making stuff up.

It was a great story, untill they joined the horde, the joining the horde part was rushed and poorly done.

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They play like any other race if you ask me. I have a NB mage cause I think they kind of look cool.

~https://i.imgur.com/SCmO12r.jpg

She even calls them mana addicts

Your whole argument seems to be angry about them not being on the Alliance.

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She’s talking about the blood elves… the bloodelves are the mana addicts on the footsteps of her homeland that she didn’t expect to see.

AGAIN, joining the Horde isn’t the issue. I think they fit better on the horde. it’s how it was handled thats the issue.

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Sylvanas didn’t reveal her intent to burn Teldrassil until seconds before she gave the order. The quests building up to the moment implied that the Horde players were operating under the belief that they were marching to occupy the tree, not destroy it, just like Saurfang.

Whether the players, as individuals, agreed with Sylvanas’ change of plan is up to them, but they weren’t given a say in the matter, and they didn’t have the chance to take part in the actual burning.

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I love the nightborne but their playable version doesn’t feel like it does them justice at all. Especially with no good Nightborne weapon transmogs because legion was the expansion OF NO WEAPONS.

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Suramar make them look and feel a lot cooler than the playable ones ended up being.

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GARBAAAAGEEEEEE Racials.

It was handled well, they showed how much they changed quite nicely.

Their story was a re-telling of the Blood elf scenario, they fit perfectly with them and Liadrin’s interactions with Thalryssa proved that.

You really should know already that Nightborne can be trusted at this point.

It really cemented them joining the Horde.

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This is true, but still, marching against the nation who literally just saved your own people should have been sounding alarm bells for the Nightborn. Especially when their opening line was “we will emerge as protectors of Azeroth, not conqurers.”… it feels a bit jarring and makes the Nightborn come across as hypocrites, undermining all of the growth we watched throughout Suramar.

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For all of bfa this has been my main. I have had fun and liked it enough. Thought they were fun lore wise. I am annoyed with the very slim customization options. It has honestly made me feel a lot more frustrated lately than before. I love this character, but I am probably going to race change to undead in SL with all their options I think it would be a lot more fun

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I really like them I’m sad nobody likes the nightborne.

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I really like them too. I just feel like with the lack of customizations we all look exactly the same. When you feel a more homogeneous - at least for me - I can’t connect to my character. I feel unoriginal

I have thoroughly enjoyed mine.

Many folk saw the nightborne in Suramar and feel these nightborne are not the same. Which I can kinda see.

Play what you enjoy and don’t listen to anyone else.

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I know I’ve complained about them a lot in this thread but its because I actually love the Nightborn, they were amazing through Suramar, had fantastic asthetics, culture everything about them was amazing.
The limited customisation options is bad, but even with that I can work around to get something I’m happy with, but then in game theres just NO transmog options to keep the Nightborn asthetic intact, and I lose all identity.
Add that to the story making me seem like a hypocritical idiot, and my weak racials that arn’t even worth a global CD… and its overall just a disapointment.

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I like mine, I made a Horde Warlock. I have the perfect transmog for her armor when she is high enough level. I’m going to use the Plaguebringer’s Raiment.

Sure, they wrote tyrande like that in legion, but it’s jarring for people WHY they would write her like that suddenly, and make her behave like that to her old relatives. I mean, they did hide in a bubble and sided with the very people that tried to wipe out the planet, but not all of them and some tried to flee or forced into the position because of Elisande. a lot were just elitist jerks though. She was however very forgiving to a lot of people and compassionate that they just tried to survive and she would often just want to help them. She would probably want them to prove themselves at least that they aren’t just as bad as the ones who sided with the fel, but she would see the good ones and care for them and her people. Not “well, it used to be my home, so, I GUESS. however, IM DONE WITH YOU AFTER THIS”

Just seems really weird that suddenly they are on the enemy side after that and ok with killing each other in a war after Tyrande not being happy with them hiding.

Before legion, she pretty much had a different personality. It’s as if Tyrande and Maiev have switched personalities entirely. There was a hint of her growing tired of it in Mists, leaving it up to Varian and was pleased with him, once he died, kinda made her just have no patience for orcs.

Sure, tyrande can be tired of orcs and them betraying, as well as the horde. They’ve taken advantage of their kindness and forgiveness quite a few times only for her land to be completely and entirely taken from her down to the entire continent besides hyjal and moonglade, but that has nothing to do with Nightborne and little to do with blood elves besides that they supported the horde for being helped out , but they are largely reclusive people who just do their own thing and don’t want to bother with other BS.

Then again, the writing of characters is just trash now to me. It’s not even so much “Which character do I like” anymore it’s “which do I dislike the least” So many of them are just poorly written that I don’t care about them anymore. Malfurion has completely changed as well and just hides behind Tyrande.

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