Are multiple difficulty levels really that bad?

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

i would like that and wouldn’t be upset if lfr was taken away for that. assuming it had the same low level rewards. also with what i said earlier about nerfing WQ and buffing crafting i think it would be an overall win for casuals. like i said i don’t expect heroic, or heck even NORMAL, raid gear for doing what i do. if i wanted to get much better gear i’d have to get much better at the game. i don’t think they realize they’d taken all sense of progression from us. at least if lfr/this individual stuff was our “endgame” as casuals we would see normal raiding as the next step up if we wanted better gear. instead of feeling it’s worthless to raid because you can get nearly heroic level gear from WQ.

[Kreivos-hyjal]

@Tewa-hyjal

By joining a guild and making friends with people who will help them get better. You’re a lot more willing to help somebody you know than you are a complete stranger.

I taught plenty of people in BC & Wrath how to do basic things like queue spells, watch their spell latency, create macros, etc.

I would have loved to have a guild like that in BC, but sadly was not so lucky. Not everyone’s going to be that fortunate.

@Tewa-hyjal

Randomized queues actually REMOVE the situation whereby players used to get better. Now the playerbase DOESN’T get better and so Blizzard has to continually dumb down the encounters more and more every expansion, as a result.

You don’t speak for everyone. I use those tools to try to get better, because I recently went back to warlock after many years and am not fully adept in this class yet. In BC and Wrath there’d be no way for me to practice and would have to rely on the good graces of others to help me with that, which wouldn’t always happen.

[Tewa-hyjal (Tewa)]

@Kreivos-hyjal

I would have loved to have a guild like that in BC, but sadly was not so lucky. Not everyone’s going to be that fortunate.

Which is why I said, above:

@Tewa-hyjal

What you NEED is good people. And Blizzard has the technology to help players find other people that will enhance their play experience.

Blizzard knows:
*When we play.
*How much we play.
*What we do with our time when we’re online.
*How good we are, how far we progress.

Blizzard can take all that data and point people towards other groups and individuals that share similar qualities.

Companies use data tools like that all the time, it’s an entire industry. From finding the perfect mutual fund to suggesting which wine you might like.

Blizzard needs to use modern technology to get people in touch with other people like them, who are looking for the same thing.

And it would be a HELL of a lot more successful and satisfying than just throwing us together with the first 24 random people in the queue.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

what is a target dummy?

[Tewa-hyjal (Tewa)]

I was thinking the same thing…

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

i was horrible at warlock in legion and a mythic wannabe guild tried to recruit me. i spenrt some tiime at a target dummy with one of their warlocks.

[Kreivos-hyjal]

Posting this from another thread I presented the idea in.

@Kreivos-hyjal

The only way I would support LFR’s removal is if there’s an official Blizzard program that supports those who want to step up to Normal raiding but are hesitant to for whatever reason. A set of sponsored, responsible raid leaders who would be patient enough to teach new players, and so forth. Something that makes Normal all-inclusive and welcoming.

Until that happens then LFR should stay.

[Kreivos-hyjal]

Not something that can teach you everything you need to know about being a warlock.

Then you’ve got things like Icy Veins which apparently the warlock Discord will tell you is totally wrong and would give you a set of totally contradictory and arbitrary stats and guides that just end up making everything super confusing.

It’s not easy to get good in this game.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

you don’t learn anything from lfr either though. even NORMAL barely has any mechanics. if you want to learn to raid higher difficulties you should start at the bottom (pugging normals) and make your way to the top.

[Tewa-hyjal (Tewa)]

@Kreivos-hyjal

Posting this from another thread I presented the idea in.

@Kreivos-hyjal

The only way I would support LFR’s removal is if there’s an official Blizzard program that supports those who want to step up to Normal raiding but are hesitant to for whatever reason. A set of sponsored, responsible raid leaders who would be patient enough to teach new players, and so forth. Something that makes Normal all-inclusive and welcoming.

Until that happens then LFR should stay.

We had that.

Until LFR destroyed the raiding scene below Heroic/Mythic.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

sim stuff. don’t rely on icy veins guides. i should have more balanced stats but i’m stacking haste for lols.

[Kreivos-hyjal]

@Tewa-hyjal

We had that.

No, we didn’t. We had a bunch of elitist circles doing everything they can to exclude others.

@Dekkar-sisters-of-elune

sim stuff. don’t rely on icy veins guides.

I don’t know how to sim stuff, and I’ve never been able to figure it out.

[Tewa-hyjal (Tewa)]

@Kreivos-hyjal

@Tewa-hyjal

We had that.

No, we didn’t. We had a bunch of elitist circles doing everything they can to exclude others.

This simply isn’t true. But if you ran around saying this all the time, I think we’ve found why nobody wanted to take you.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

go here: https://www.askmrrobot.com/ load your toon. and mess around with stuff.

[Kreivos-hyjal]

I only say that now because we have more accessible options. Back in the day I simply shut up and took it when folks denied me from Karazhan groups.

[Tewa-hyjal (Tewa)]

Denying you from Karazhan groups? Why didn’t you do it with your guild?

[Kreivos-hyjal]

The guilds I ended up with didn’t do anything and it was a constant search.

[Tewa-hyjal (Tewa)]

Well, that’s where a smart people-finder service could help, and why Blizzard should create one.

But randomly-created groups are not the answer and have devastated this game’s playerbase.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

it would be more productive for us to help him try to get better than asking him why he didn’t. lol.

[Dekkar-sisters-of-elune (Dekkar)]

also from this point on keep every single thing you get don’t scrap it. then use mr robot to optimize. you’ll have to change your gear around a lot though.