Apple's WWDC showed WoW TWW on IPAD?

This was always blown way out of proportion and taken out of context.

Basically all mobile devices use lithium ion batteries. After a certain number of charge/discharge cycles, these batteries are degraded, and cannot hold as much power , and/or provide enough for certain peak power demands from the soc.

If your phones battery was degraded sufficiently, the phone might have shut off if the battery couldn’t provide enough power during a ‘surge’ or peak demand during heavy use.

This would for obvious reasons be a really annoying user experience and people would complain.

They would also probably look to buy a new phone if their old one kept shutting off. Makes sense. Well, Apple decided they could throttle the speed of the soc to limit those peak power demands on the degraded battery, but only if you had a degraded battery.

This allowed people to keep using their old phone instead of needing to buy a new one. The only problem was Apple did a terrible job explaining this to the public.

People are convinced that Apple “slowed the phones down as part of planned obsolescence”, like some conspiracy to push us to buy new phones.

That was always a nonsense argument, because throttling phones that had batteries that were degraded actually let people use the phones longer, before needing to either replace the battery or upgrade the device.

Anyone without an agenda could understand this clearly, but as it goes on the internet, misinformation ruled the roost and people think it’s some malicious conspiracy.

Notwithstanding Apples history of supporting these devices for years longer than their competitors in terms of software and OS support…

Anyway, the topic always irked me because people were claiming the opposite of what was true, and were stubborn and unwilling to learn that they were misinformed.

The settlement Apple paid over the matter was about how they basically did not explain this transparently to their customers, not that they throttled the frequency of the SOC on devices with degraded batteries so they could be used longer without annoying shutdowns.

Ugh.

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I did not know that! And apologize for further spreading the misinfo.

I’d only ever heard about the conspiracy, as I said I never had trouble with my phone. My current one is pretty out of date and works almost as good as when I got it.

They’ve also changed things (a lot of tech has) to stop the “overcharging” that also caused batteries to degrade a lot.

I’ve always been impressed with how long Apple products last. Every time I get a new iPad I’ve given the old one away to a friend or family member. My mom still uses my first ever iPad to this day (just as an e-reader and to browse Facebook, but still).

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Yep. It’s been many years and product cycles since that “issue” was current, and there have been many software and hardware improvements to help prevent batteries from degrading too quickly.

It’s basically a non issue now.

They did a terrible job of not telling anybody until they got caught… where they intentionally doing it for malicious purposes who knows…

But when a company engages in that kind of stuff without telling anyone they’re doing it until they get caught. Yeah conspiracy theories are going to fly…and it doesn’t help that they make their products extremely hard to work on.

They didn’t “get caught” because they didn’t do anything wrong (aside from transparently explaining the new throttling behavior clearly).

Again, when the phone has a battery that is degraded to the point where it would just shut itself off, it makes complete sense to be able to implement a fix that stops the phone from shutting off.

Apple did a terrible job explaining this to the public. They should have been transparent, because when some researcher or whomever discovered the phones new throttling behavior, all the clickbait sites jumped on it and didn’t explain it in context, because the internet loves negative clickbait and websites and Twitter accounts love the clicks.

Understand what happened here in full context.

Meanwhile, controller support is still only halfway finished.

Apple didn’t say anything about what they were doing until they got caught,

geekbench was running different tests on different IPhones when they found the slowdown and then that’s when apple said oh yeah we slow phones down because of the battery degradation…

Not really, there’s to many variances in android models and OS variants to be supportable for them

Yes that’s what I said. The throttling behavior was discovered, and then all the clickbait anti Apple hate sites picked up the story, stripped any context about degraded batteries and throttling the soc so the phone doesn’t literally shut off, and they just ran with stories like:

“APPLE SLOWS IPHONES AS PART OF PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE CONSPIRACY???”

And now here we are, years later still trying to explain what happened to people.

The thing they were forced to pay a settlement over was not that they throttled phones with damaged batteries, it was that they didn’t explain that’s what they were doing.

Your phone today will throttle so it doesn’t shut it self off.

Your computer will throttle itself so it doesn’t overheat and shut off.

But people don’t complain about “INTEL THROTTLING YOUR GAMING PC???”

Apples their own worst enemy. When a company. Makes a product that is so extremely hard to upgrade and or repair and when they do get caught doing something like this well the click bait will ensue…

And honestly wouldn’t even doubt it. If That that was their intentions to get people to buy new iPhones can I prove it no but I wouldn’t be shocked…considering iPhone is roughly about half of their income. I stand corrected its 58%

Wait, I will be able to play WoW on my iPad? I was only watching for the iOS 18 announcements.

I wasn’t watching carefully, but there was a slide with upcoming games they threw up on the screen and wow war within was on it.

I thought this was referring to gaming on MacOS, and not specifically iPad, but it wouldn’t be a stretch to have these games run on an M series iPad Pro. These are basically the same chips they use in their computers.

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True. If they make WoW playable on iPads, they may actually get me to buy their newer iPads lol.

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Saying they “got caught” is a loaded phrasing implying they did something wrong. They are 100% correct to throttle the frequency of the iPhone soc so they don’t just shut down completely if they have a damaged battery.

It is a better experience to have the phone open the camera app a fraction of a second slower vs having the phone shut down entirely.

It is a better experience for your Intel CPU to throttle down temporarily if your CPU’s cooler can’t keep up with the heat being generated.

Most of time you will not notice this behavior because you can keep using your device.

You would notice if these devices did NOT throttle and just shut down completely.

It’s not a loaded phrase implying anything, or what they did was wrong… they did not say anything to anybody until they got caught from geekbench when they were doing their test. Nothing more or nothing less take it how you want.

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I mean it is a loaded phrasing, but I see the context you are saying it in, which is a matter of fact objective reporting of the chain of events. Not worth continuing to disagree about that phrasing, imo.

With a company as big as apple is, I’m glad they get scrutinized.

Not an Apple hater by any means. But just like any trillion dollar company you’d be foolish to think they are doing things in your best interest 100% of the time.

The fact that they had to get legislated on stuff like usb C is wild to me.

Anyway I like that they’re finally acknowledging gaming now. A game like Ori or even Diablo 4 would be absolutely perfect for a MacBook pro but sadly we’re still not quite there yet.

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100% agree

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It’s not me, literally that’s the only way apple can make money is iPhone and proprietary Things and or devices hooking up to said iPhone iPad or iMac…

Because company had to pay Apple a royalty anytime They made a lightning cable for the iPhone or iPad.

Now with USB C they can’t

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