Apparently, not trading raid loot is a kickable offense

1- He asked if she needed-- Answer was no.
2- He asked if He could have-- Answer was no.

It wasn’t misleading. Just because OP didn’t need it doesn’t mean he was going to get it-- If he assumed that just because OP didn’t need it, it meant he was Supposed to get it?

I’m confused here. Because, he didn’t ask for the cloak until afterward.

I’m a softy. I even gave weapons away. Only I do not give away when someone asks rudely. I got that really nice two-hander just recently. One of the guys running only had a 265 weapon. Not even sure how possible. he loves the 375 upgrades. sent me three emails thanking me. :smiley:

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That makes no sense.

The context was getting kicked from a guild (or raid…whichever) and the OP being surprised by the reason.

The answer should have been yes because the OP said they needed it for transmog.

Nope. Would never do that to a complete stranger, maybe to a guildie. In pugs, the norm is for the looter to post the item in raid chat if it is up for grabs. Those who want it, role for it and the winner gets the loot.

Whispering people for loot is annoying, but forgivable. Arguing with people who say “no” is bad form.

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Understand. TY Tovi–

But for me it wasn’t misleading. Until someone ask for it specifically, I would have assumed what he was asking to see if he could ask for it. Which is where the conversation went.

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Moral of the situation. Let loot go to your mailbox. This will assure drama like this can’t happen.

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He probably kicked you because you’re either a hacker or a liar.

Heroic Conclave drops 400 ilvl loot.

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This has been addressed in earlier comments. Again, correct. I misrembered the raid level.

Rather or not this was the only reason I will bite and assume that the only issue was simply not trading your loot with someone else. Seems to me if your in a PUG you shouldn’t have to give your loot away unless you agreed when signing on that you would give away items that were not an ilvl upgrade.

If this had been a guild run that would be a pretty nasty thing to do though. Anyways just my opinion.

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But it was misleading. Do you have people randomly whisper you for the hell of it to say “hey do you need that cloak? No? Oh just checking! Byyyyyyyyyyyyyyye!”

That’s ridiculous.

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I agree. Guild runs are vastly different than pugs.

For some reason, every kick is justified purely because the party wants it, except non-loot-trading kicks. Too many entitled MINE MINE MINE libertarians around if you ask me.

That said, why shouldn’t you be able to trade the item but not the appearance?

Select “item trade only” - he gets his upgrade, but no mog.

You keep your mog.

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Mostly, they ask if they can have it. I’ll be honest, I have never had anyone ask me if I needed it. Ever.

It’s always been, “I can I have…”

So for me, this isn’t misleading. It’s irrelevant if OP needed it or not. He didn’t Ask for it. He asked if she needed it. That doesn’t assume that it’s his or that the OP doesn’t want to keep their loot.

So here we’ll have to agree to disagree. I’m sorry. He didn’t ask for the cloak and the OP was under no obligation to give it even if OP didn’t need it. :rainbow:

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Pretty sure they stated if you go to loot and see whats there, it doesn’t get mailed to you anymore if you don’t loot it

I’ll be honest, I see it all the time. It’s just another way for people to ask and you know it, the OP knows it and that’s proven here:

Nobody was disputing that. At least, I don’t think anybody was. I wasn’t, anyways.

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I don’t know, I had a good laugh at the original Post, I’ve seen worse things written so I’m not going to get my bamboo in a bunch.

Word to the wise though, RL wasn’t in the right but you could next time just say you do need it. That way there is no way for the other person to react that wouldn’t cross the harassment-line in which the ignore button comes handy.

I avoid pugs after Legion, you had good experiences and that’s good. I didn’t so I don’t have good things to say.

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Thanks! I try to inject humor, so it’s not just another whine post, but I can see it came off as nasty to some posters. Totally understandable. Context is hard to convey in text.

Several posters have mentioned my initial response was unclear, so in retrospect, I can see the other side of it. The shammy still argued after my much clearer second “no”, so I’m not convinced it would have ended well, in spite of the misunderstanding.

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I’m assuming that this was a guild group you joined, otherwise it wouldn’t make any sense for them to boot you; and assuming it indeed was a guild group then you probably should have seen that coming seeing as they’ll always put their people first.

Regardless, in the future just tell them you got it on a bonus roll and can’t trade it.

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Well it is your loot, and you have the right to do whatever you like to it.

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