I literally saw a horde trying to heartstone behind his group once lol
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all my toons play with wm on - always have; always will. most of my alts don’t even do the quest… it’s pointless when you outgear it.
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Yet you neglected to include the part of my quote where I admit it was parting of issues early on. Again, you chose what you wanted to quote to paint me in the bad light here.
Regardless, the Horde has not yet seen this. The Alliance as a result her free gear because they can roam in large groups of five. The 10% xp is something Horde and Alliance got; the AOO gear, conquest, and 25% xp have been only for the Alliance since they were introduced as a concept. The Horde will not see it simply because the Alliance have this monopoly.
I’m not blaming the Alliance. They get to choose to turn WM on and off when it suits them to make sure they get the free stuff. I’m blaming Blizzard for an awful bandaid fix to a problem they caused with their terrible sharding technology.
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I mean, it wasn’t my intention to paint you in a bad light, but alright. I wanted to make extra clear of the reasoning why AOO exists because I see many salty Horde players spin the narrative that their high participation in wpvp is due to a innate tendency for Horde players to Wpvp, instead of acknowledging that a combination of very bad sharding technology and a positive feedback loop worked in the Horde’s favor.
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Don’t know where you’re going with this.
Straight-up, Alliance, as a whole, have more people not interested in WPvP. Proof is in the pudding because Alliance only turned it on once they got 400 ilvl gear and complained when it was dropped to 385.
This is gear Horde never saw. No, Horde saw unchecked 10% bonus on WQ bonus for azerite, order resources, etc. None of that equated to free heroic gear. Even when Alliance were blessed with normal ilvl gear and 3x the amount of WQ rewards - Alliance still didn’t turn it on… for the most part.
There has been an uptick in Alliance participation as they realized they can hold ground sometime.
But let’s be completely honest, many of the Alliance turning WM on would not do so if there was no gear ilvl associated with it… something they can earn by camping flight paths (or could) and can now camp quest points away from FPS.
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Why on Azeroth would the side with more players involved in WM get a quest to help the side with less people in WM? Please make sense.
Ah yes this is why they said WM was essentially even when it started. That makes total sen- wait…
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Whether I am playing Horde or Alliance, the side I am playing is right and the enemy is just every bad word.
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why would i? it so much fun landing into a raid of alliance players with 5 horde in the zone.
Yea especially on an RP server this is basically all that happens.
Please.
It was even because both Alliance and Horde knew that the first few days would be untouched as both sides used the mode to leve faster and use their PvP talents.
You can say it’s cuz of “the glitch” all you want.
The glitch has been fixed and Alliance came out in droves when the ilvl reward was a feee piece of BoD heroic.
When that was taken away the Alliance turned WM off in droves.
If they didn’t then they never would have gotten the AAO quest again. The fact that it went away and came back showed that Alliance don’t want do WPvP unless they get free loot.
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Because the Alliance can only receive welfare.
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And the Horde turned it to roam around wpvp without a challenge. The difference between my statement and yours is that Ion, the game director of the game said this (if you want I can link the Q&A). What you’re saying isn’t proof because it doesn’t corroborate what you’re saying with proof.
Sharding was busted, and the AOO reward was an intended fix to an imbalance problem that came from a faulty sharding mechanic
Didn’t the Horde do this? The Horde complained about this highly, and even I thought ilvl 400 was absurd. Ion went over this.
Oh come on, my dude. Don’t use weasel words. We did enable it. The Horde can’t complain about 40 man Alliance raids camping everything and then say in the next breath that they didn’t bother turning it on, surely you can see that it’s a contradiction.
And let me be honest too, many of the Horde turning on WM would not do so if it weren’t for the shards being balanced. They’d fight only when they can zerg all day everyday and walk around without a challenge.
Against all Odds cannot be done in a raid group - and 2 of my toons have just completed it on their own.
The Dagger in the Back - or whatever that azerite trait is called - is great against hordies, double points every time as they are always running away.
And the Horde only want to have warmode on when there’s no opposing force. They want everything on ez-mode.
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Well clearly you have it all figured out despite what anyone, including blizz, says. Obviously youre smarter than everyone else combined. /s
Duh. But remember that it hasnt been heroic level since the first week and yet horde still whine when alliance are around.
Is “droves” a scientific term in measurement? I think its just dramatic considering you dont know how many players are doing what on either side. You can blame it on “the quest” all you want.
Or maybe a bunch of horde turn it off when they see AoO and turn it back on when its gone. Maybe the alliance number hasnt budged and its the horde running away.
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Sorry, but before the Alliance started receiving the welfare, I am pretty sure the Horde was complaining there was nobody out there for them to PVP.
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Because faulty sharding played in your favor which Ion admitted. Many Alliance players got tired of the zerging because that’s literally the only way you guys can fight, when a system intended to be working was broken. You literally need the game to broken to pvp. That’s worse than getting “welfare” gear.
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- Claims the game was broken
- Yet there was so many alliance that didn’t turn on there WM.
Only a Male Human Paladin will call it Horde BIAS.
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Attack Of Opportunity?
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This is very big brained, not gonna’ lie.
Because I can prove my argument but you can’t prove yours.
You got destroyed by facts and logic in this debate ![:wink:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/wink.png?v=6" ":wink:")
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