Anyone whining about limited time (ie Mage tower) think of your own collectibles

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Tbh I wouldnt care if you could have any of the limited things I have. In fact yes, I think the game would be a lot better if they stopped removing content and you could get old stuff, including the other armor sets, mounts or whatever.

It’s ridiculous arguing you want LESS stuff in the game. And yes, keeping certain rewards challenging is good, but you can keep them challenging and not remove them. No need to give everything away for free.

In any case, yes, let blizzard bring back the old content for anyone who missed out or wants it, the mage tower, the dungeon challenge modes. Everything. More is better.

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But … if everyone has the same pixels that I have, my pixels will no longer be special.

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Not sure if you’ve been following this whole thread or not, but you’re not “one of the very few.” The division on this topic seems to be about 50/50.

If anything, it seems 60/40 in favor of opening it all up. I haven’t heard a logical argument yet refuting the fact there is no such thing as a “rare, digital” item. You can create FAKE rarity, but that’s admitting the argument fails.

The allure of “rare” things has appeal. But after 1 year, 5 years, 10 years? It adds NOTHING to the game. Open it ALL up.

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This is where your posting failed miserably. You still can get these items if you pay for it. However, you cannot get these skins anymore.

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The requirements are different thats why I care. Its just not fair unless its 50 times harder. Knowing them it will be super easy. Like a determination stack or something.

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I’ll make copies of them and hand them out for free to everyone.

Problem solved… stop whining about it.

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For real. This is why I quit playing this game. Man-babies just gotta man-baby over pixel availability. The mage tower was NOT hard by any stretch after ToS gear was available. You could faceroll it the last 6 MONTHS of the tower. You aren’t better than anyone else at video games so stop thinking this skin recolor actually means anything. For those of you who think having this recolor skin is an issue, GET OVER YOURSELF!

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Same. I’ve got more than a few things that are very low production numbers because I wanted them. White vinyl LPs, art books, Evangelion 1 for the NERV parking permit, and many more…

If the companies started pumping out more copies tomorrow I’d be all for it. More fans getting cool stuff is a win to me.

Edit to add: Timewalking/scaling wouldn’t be too hard to get the overall difficulty about even. Disable new gear, Item level limits like herald of the titans, etc… Would potentially bring life to the older areas as well as people try to get legiondaries/gear sets to assault the tower.

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Why bother OP.

The children and adult children of Today do not understand what exclusive and time limited means.

Should stop right there and ignore them as should be done. They got their compromise, and they still piss and moan.

Sucks for the rest of us that act our age.

:fox_face:

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To start off, I am 100% for recolors. Keep the originals limited as they are.

For your comparison, I do have some limited stuff, autographed shirts and things like that.
The difference between that type of stuff in real life is that people CAN buy it. There are “limited edition” things all over ebay and different marketplaces. If I get tired of having a flail, I can’t sell it…
Odd backfoot comparisin there, but basically it boils down to; limited in game items are not real.
You can’t cherish it once the servers go down. You can’t sell it for a premium to someone who wants it when you don’t anymore.
Again, I’m all for letting the limited time skins stay limited. Give us recolors of them to make it obvious who got the OG rewards.
I also believe limited time things in a continuous game like wow is a bad idea.
My spouse joined, also when I created this particular account, she wants my sparkle cat from my other account… can’t get it. This account doesn’t have it and can’t get it… so if I want my sparkle cat I have to play on my old account.
Edge case scenario maybe, but it still highlights the problems with limited time stuff in a game.
Just my opinion.

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Haha what?

Outside of Legion, druids have had 1 new form added to the game.

While everyone else has thousands of transmog options.

Yeah, the flail is another unique appearance that shouldn’t have been part of the MT in the first place.

Mounts and titles are one thing, but making something completely unique time-sensitive is a mistake.

Then WoW will continue to shrink as players leave, and there is enough unobtainable stuff to further put off new players from trying.

It’s definitely not the only reason that WoW is struggling, but - as someone who has tried basically every MMO out there - it’s very off-putting to start a game, have your eye on a specific ‘look’ and then realizing that this look will be impossible for me to ever achieve.

Yeah, this is FOMO. FOMO basically means you have to keep playing, or risk losing out on something you want.

It’s a really bad idea, not only for the reasons above, but because it turns playing into a chore you have to do not to miss out (it’s wheeled out every expansion to curb drought periods). This makes people who did earn it resentful, and overly protective over it.

You do realize that MT was solo, right?

Shrug. If there is demand for it.

See above.

But I don’t see many calls for mounts or titles to get this treatment, because - by and large - these are items that give prestige without compromising the ability of your players to customize their avatars.

I think that this was Mimiron’s Head, tbh.

I disagree - but if that were the case, then they just wouldn’t use them and yours would be ‘unique’ again, right?

No, it’s more like one kid complaining that his little brother got a SNES, because it takes attention away from his Genesis.

I think that, while this may have worked in the past, it’s starting to work against Blizzard now.

WoW is really struggling to find new players, and giving them yet another reason not to bother doesn’t help.

There is also the investment of resources into content that most of your playerbase won’t get to enjoy. This was the reason that LFR was added, and is the reason that MoP and expansions going forward (WoD excepted, still have no idea what went wrong there) don’t have 2-3 tiers of 7 boss raids.

I think we know full-well what it means.

We just think that attaching meaningful (in some cases completely unique) visual customization options to these, as opposed to pure ‘prestige’ items like mounts or titles, is a universally bad idea.

Because it’s a compromise that ignores the uniqueness of the warrior flail and the druid cat form. Hell, ferals actually get nothing from the MT tower that they can use in combat.

On one side you have people who understand that in an MMO, a big part of the enjoyment is being able to make your ‘perfect’ avatar. They don’t want everything, just recolors/tweaks of previously removed content.

On the other side you have people who can’t enjoy having something nice unless they can prevent other people from having anything similar, and will actively go out of their way to taunt and gloat about it to new players.

Here’s an example, from another thread.

If it makes you feel better, I’ll make sure to laugh in their faces and /dab on them in our amazing exclusive feral Druid form that they will never ever be able to get.

Is this what you’d call a healthy, ‘mature’ mentality?

I’d hope not.

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I have several mage tower skins and idgaf if they open it back up or not. Most of those skins I don’t use and any “prestige” I feel from having them has long faded…

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I have a few “no longer available” items (the Sentinel’s Headguard, the plate version for example), and I honestly don’t care if someone else can get it today.

I … literally… don’t… care.

I use what looks good to me and I don’t care if someone else has access to it.

I don’t base my own enjoyment off of what someone else has or doesn’t have.

I don’t feel the need to be a special snowflake, I don’t need pixels on a screen that were only unlockable during a certain timeframe to feel good about myself.

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And it seems manchildren and manbabies do not understand what a good video game is.
Sucks for the rest of us that act appearantly better than those older than ourselves.
But then again, the older generations tend to be blind to certain facts of life.

I bet the same people who speak against the reocurrence of some semblance of good content in World of Warcraft, are the same people who speak highly of having storemounts and online stores, despite those two things actually being more of a detriment to the value of what is gathered in game.

Oh, but of course, the old generation simply do not understand such basic principles.

And now let me remind you that it was not the children and “adult children” who started this exact pissing context - it was you, the allegedly “non children”.

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I agree with you completely - and I enjoy personal solo challenges that award unique items - I’d like to see more of that.

And when a company advertises that something will no longer be obtainable, they reiterate that (and have again just recently) - it should stay that way. That said - I think recolours of the original MT models would be fair (considering the bear release).

As people who want everything, don’t understand time-limited, let them cry and wail and shake their fists at the sky - it’s fine, it’s cool - I don’t care :wink:

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I think the point that many people are making, is that they should not have been time-limited exclusives to begin with.

So hopefully they stop doing that crap, at least with anything other than mounts and titles.

It’s not about “git gud” it’s about “newer players are left out with no way for them to even think about trying for any of this stuff” and when it comes to a whole different weapon type or a shapeshift form this is rather bad.

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That’s fine to say that now, but they were … sooo…. Don’t want any prestige items in the future because FoMo is so “evil” well, I guess Blizzard can decide what they want to do.

I don’t think time exclusives, or just exclusives are bad - gives goals for people to try for. And of course you’re fine with the mounts, but want to target and eliminate the notion of any soloable pve casual challenge for everybody - yeah, I don’t agree. I hardly think that’s cool.

Yeah, I already said - the looks in that towers were so unique that some literally had nothing comparable in game - so they should offer rcolors for the new Tower - but eliminate tower’esque challenges in the future - that offer time locked rewards to an expansion - no, I’d like more challenges and opportunities for unique items, not less.

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It is evil. It’s toxic, and it pushes people to go beyond healthy limits for playing a video game, purely on the fear of missing something that can never be gotten again when the only reason for doing so, is to let some special snowflakes who need these pixels to feel good about themselves.

Mounts and Titles are fine, because as pointed out earlier in the thread, they aren’t customization options for your in-game character. The flails, for example… I wouldn’t mind so much if there were other flails around, but there aren’t. That’s literally the one and only flail you can get in the entire game, and I happen to like flails on characters, and use them whenever possible a lot of times.

Shapeshift forms are another huge thing. I mean, that’s literally the whole point of the Druid class. Withholding a whole shapeshift form to a limited time exclusive FOMO thing is just ridiculous. It was ridiculous then, and it’s still ridiculous now.

If you want your soloable PvE casual challenge, then sure, you can have that. Nothing wrong with adding mounts on that if you really must show off your epeen.

Why do the challenges need time-locks, though? Does it really matter to you if Joe Schmoe did it 2 weeks after the Tower was released, or 2 years later?

I get that the game mechanics are different than they were in Legion, but that’s more of a failure of the design team to know WTF they’re doing with the classes from one expansion to another, I suppose.

But the failure of the design team shouldn’t be something we have to deal with in that way.

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There is nothing evil and toxic about it to me, that’s your opinion only. I may add that the principle argument is not very persuasive to me, most people are fine with keeping glads locked - it’s just this one thing they don’t like - the tower - because they want that stuff. I don’t see parades of people crying about AoTC or Glad or even CM - just the tower.

So, step off that high horse, because it all seems rather disingenuous to me. If Blizzard were to stop it and retroactively unlock everything all time-sensitive rewards, that would cause a lot more problems.

If you don’t, can’t or refuse to do a time-sensitive achievement in the future, that’s your call - not mine - and it’s hardly “evil” you can’t have everything offered in the game. Go play FF then (oh wait, they also have time locked rewards).

I guess you’re screwed then.

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Probably happy, because most the “exclusive” stuff I own is stuff that’s been discontinued that I like. Stuff that was once exclusive being available again suggests that there may be a reboot for something I like :smiley: