@Anyone that says Sharding is not noticeable

[Laeric-wyrmrest-accord]

Fine. I think you’re overreacting, but fine.

given blizzards past with sharding i don’t consider it an overreaction at all.

or do you want them to magically somehow end up with sharding turned on for world events and AQ launch event?

Depends how many people are actually playing Classic.

and this is why i fight against classic having sharding. people with you are more then happy to green light stuff like sharding and give blizzard excuses to use it wherever they want

So you’d rather have an unstable, crashy mess than a game that you can actually play? Sorry, but I know where my priorities are.

i’d rather have world events and AQ be big epic events like they are supposed to be. sharding counteracts that.

No thanks. I’d rather not have server-crashing levels of lag from the sheer number of players in the same zone.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

No thanks. I’d rather not have server-crashing levels of lag from the sheer number of players in the same zone.

and you just killed classic by allowing sharding anytime blizzard wants it. GG.

[Sabetha-turalyon (Sabetha)]

No thanks. I’d rather not have server-crashing levels of lag from the sheer number of players in the same zone.

It’s not an authentic AQ launch if you don’t disconnect in Silithus and reconnect only to somehow be on a boat under Stonetalon Mountains.

Though if Blizzard is using cloud servers, they should be able to pull in more resources temporarily for those kinds of events.

[Laeric-wyrmrest-accord]

No thanks. I’d rather not have server-crashing levels of lag from the sheer number of players in the same zone.

It’s not an authentic AQ launch if you don’t disconnect in Silithus and reconnect only to somehow be on a boat under Stonetalon Mountains.

Though if Blizzard is using cloud servers, they should be able to pull in more resources temporarily for those kinds of events.

Well Blizzard DID say “authentic Classic experience, but not the launch experience.” So… yeah.

As for the cloud server thing… I am not 100% sure that’s how that works.

[Brokenwind-malganis (Brokenwind)]

Open beta would be perfect for this.

[Sabetha-turalyon (Sabetha)]

Well Blizzard DID say “authentic Classic experience, but not the launch experience.” So… yeah.

As for the cloud server thing… I am not 100% sure that’s how that works.

I wont speak to the specifics of Blizzard’s setup since i don’t know it, but the point of cloud computing in general is that it’s very easy to pull in extra resources when you need them.

With the old server blades if you had a problem, you’d need to go get more server blades and hook them up. Either getting new server blades, or taking servers away from something else that doesn’t need them right now.

With cloud servers, you can do that without needing to move a bunch of hardware around. The whole point of the cloud is that everything is connected, and it’s easy to shift resources around as needed.

[Brokenwind-malganis (Brokenwind)]

Did it ever occur to you that maybe they needed to keep it on more often than they thought they would?

And what “need” was that?

[Díni-dalaran]

Back in the day, this character of mine existed on the realm Medivh. I was present at the AQ opening event and was even captured in the official video footage for a split second. It was hell trying to log onto the server that day (thanks to all of you who played back then for almost ruining it for us server-natives). But we survived that day and the months leading up to it, including the Mannoroth folks spamming the server with level 1s to crash the server multiple times a day. As someone who lived the many “awful” experiences described in this thread that are being used to support sharding, I can say it really wasn’t that bad.

Vanilla came with its own way of dealing with high server load, and it was the good ole server queue. Can’t get in? Roll another server. Hell, this character only came into existence when Draenor went down for a week-long maintenance over Christmas '04. My cousin and I rerolled on Medivh, rather than waiting for the server to come back up and it was the best decision we ever made.

At the end of the day, the servers will steady out, everyone will move past the starting zones and spread thinner and thinner into the world until stability is reached. I’m all for increasing server caps at launch (within reason) and allowing more people into the game. But this original game was designed with the mindset of a community of 4-5k (3-4K concurrent) players within a realm. Why threaten that with artificial instances splitting up the player base? Seems silly to me.

[Brokenwind-malganis (Brokenwind)]

If you are creating a character with such a common name that it would be an issue, I have a lack of sympathy. ESPECIALLY on a rp realm.

[Fateweaver-misha (Fateweaver)]

No thanks. I’d rather not have server-crashing levels of lag from the sheer number of players in the same zone.

As a survivor of the Opening of the Gates of Ahn’Qiraj I say nuts to that.

No sharding.

[Youngwidow-proudmoore]

You need to brush up on your Blizzardese. They picked a direction.

[Laeric-wyrmrest-accord]

No thanks. I’d rather not have server-crashing levels of lag from the sheer number of players in the same zone.

As a survivor of the Opening of the Gates of Ahn’Qiraj I say nuts to that.

No sharding.

As someone who actually wants to play the game and not give in to people’s elitism, I say screw server crashes and unplayable lag.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

No thanks. I’d rather not have server-crashing levels of lag from the sheer number of players in the same zone.

As a survivor of the Opening of the Gates of Ahn’Qiraj I say nuts to that.

No sharding.

As someone who actually wants to play the game and not give in to people’s elitism, I say screw server crashes and unplayable lag.

it’s not elitist to not want a system in the game that actively splits the playerbase up.

if sharding is 1-10 only and limited time only, i’ll deal. beyond that, blizzard starts hemorrhaging subs

[Ðavyjones-tichondrius]

Honestly, with how many servers there’s going to be ( At least more then 20, counting the demo.)

Math
1.2 million players at launch (it will be more but I like easy math)
20 servers… That’s 60,000 players per server…
6 starting zones per server… that’s 10,000 players in each starter zone…
That is NOT Vanilla…

if only 600,000 people play, that’s 5,000 per zone
if only 300,000 people play that’s 2,500 per zone…

[Pintero-moon-guard (Pintero)]

We are missing WAY too much info to even think about this honestly, if it’s vanilla like servers it will be IMPOSSIBLE to even get past 4k people into a server due to server cap’s. Also doesn’t logic dictate that blizzard would offer many more then 20 servers if the demo itself had so many people wanting to play?

[Ðavyjones-tichondrius]

We are missing WAY too much info to even think about this honestly, if it’s vanilla like servers it will be IMPOSSIBLE to even get past 4k people into a server due to server cap’s. Also doesn’t logic dictate that blizzard would offer many more then 20 servers if the demo itself had so many people wanting to play?

This is why sharding is fine… people need to stop overreacting to it.

Log in level up hit 60 then revisit no sharding about 6-8 weeks later.

[Penguin-tortheldrin]

We are missing WAY too much info to even think about this honestly, if it’s vanilla like servers it will be IMPOSSIBLE to even get past 4k people into a server due to server cap’s. Also doesn’t logic dictate that blizzard would offer many more then 20 servers if the demo itself had so many people wanting to play?

Not really. The demo was free to anyone with a virtual ticket and was a very small brief thing. The issue with realm sizes needing to be dynamic is that if you open 100 servers and six months later 80% of the people have stopped playing, you are left with a small handful of active realms and then a bunch of dead ones.

Actually this is exactly what happened during the demo. By the end of the play period there were a couple active realms where people were filtering to for events and stuff, and then dozens of realms that were empty or had a couple people per side.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Honestly, with how many servers there’s going to be ( At least more then 20, counting the demo.)

Math
1.2 million players at launch (it will be more but I like easy math)
20 servers… That’s 60,000 players per server…
6 starting zones per server… that’s 10,000 players in each starter zone…
That is NOT Vanilla…

if only 600,000 people play, that’s 5,000 per zone
if only 300,000 people play that’s 2,500 per zone…

who says it’s going to have 1.2 million people?
who says it’s only going to have 20 servers?

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

We are missing WAY too much info to even think about this honestly, if it’s vanilla like servers it will be IMPOSSIBLE to even get past 4k people into a server due to server cap’s. Also doesn’t logic dictate that blizzard would offer many more then 20 servers if the demo itself had so many people wanting to play?

This is why sharding is fine… people need to stop overreacting to it.

Log in level up hit 60 then revisit no sharding about 6-8 weeks later.

wow you’ve changed your toon already. first it was a month, now its 2+.

and you all wonder why we don’t want sharding.

[Ðavyjones-tichondrius]

wow you’ve changed your toon already. first it was a month, now its 2+.

and you all wonder why we don’t want sharding.

That’s when you go back and demand it be turned off…