Nah, I just want to do PVP.
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The whole full up this % bar thing isnât working for me, so atm Iâm only compelled to play my main in visions and alts in LFR ⌠I do not see this lasting until SL comes
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Iâm just playing Classic with friends. Chasing that next level is infinitely more interesting.
The highest point that was recorded was a loooong time ago, there were a handful of expansions after that peak where these âchoresâ still werenât a thing. Thatâs not a very valid point, tbh.
Except for the fact that there is no time-played metric that is reported to investors. And if it wasnât good design, as you claim, and since there is no time-played metric then Blizzard must not know what they are doing. Blizzard didnât build themselves up to be one of the top companies by not knowing what they are doing. A few randoms on the forum claiming Blizzard doesnât know what they are doing doesnât make them right, not even a little.
Not sure if youâve been keeping up with all the drama thatâs been raised recently, like wc3 remasteredâŚ
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And subs are still declining because Blizzard keeps adding more and more onto it, among other reasons.
Spending hours weekly just to keep up with temporary power boosts that will go away with the expansion is a bad feeling.
It doesnât matter if itâs directly reported to them if they use it as a success metric - they did this with Timeless Isle. They noticed a lot of people were doing it, and doing it a lot. And used that as a measure of success.
Blizzard may have built themselves up, but virtually all of the people who built it are gone. So yeah - I do think that Blizzard doesnât know what theyâre doing anymore. Itâs clear with the direction WoW has taken.
8.3 and WC3:Râs reception should clue you in on that. It has what, a user reviewed 0.5/10? Even the critics gave it pretty poor ratings. Isnât it the worst rated Blizzard game ever?
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Back in my day in 1945 youâd level to cap, grind to get pre-raid BiS then once raids opened that was the end of âoutside of raid progressionâ.
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I believe as you get past rank 10 you require higher and higher numbers of âtorn pages of fear and fleshâ up to 18 to get rank 15. Since these are obtained from the limited bonus objective bosses it increases the requirement of weekly visions you have to do at those late stages.
To be fair, daily content is needed for more casual people. I just donât understand why it feels that the more you push content the more you feel like you need to do them. That doesnât seem to make sense for me, someone that is already raiding/m+/pvp more than 12 hours a week shouldnât feel that he need to do this amount of daily content. And, if it was only getting some rep to exalted I would be fine, but now you mostly have to keep grinding forever.
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Drama blows over shortly. Not a big deal.
Can you cite a source on this to show this statement as fact or are we just going to start using opinions as fact?
Sometimes a game just isnât for someone anymore. Sometimes a player outgrows a game, sometimes a game outgrows a player.
Yeah, because the outrage culture and review bombing are a thing.
People say this all the time but then canât ever throw out any names besides the famous faces of the game.
I donât know how anyone can enjoy the daily content thatâs in the game. Itâs a chore, isnât really beneficial outside of pushing progression, and doesnât seem fun at all to do⌠so why do they do it? I donât think that itâs intended as anything other than something to keep us busy, and most casual players donât do things they donât enjoy.
I actually really like all of the content that theyâre pushing out. I just donât like that it feels like we gotta do everything for upkeep (let alone alts). I didnât like pugging a +15 every week to get my loot to keep my mythic spot, and if I was in a more serious guild, I wouldnât have a spot with my low AP level from my lack of farming.
Yea I donât dislike some of it, but why keep all wqs somewhat relevant throught an expansion with things like ap, why make things like contracts that encourage you to do even more for next to nothing of rep, why make rewards past exalted with paragons and for vale/uldum the cloak levels and the bonus sockets pretty much relying on you to keep farming that content forever. It just seems like they want to burn people out.
Iâm as casual as it gets and I enjoy doing the daily quests, horrific visions, rare hunting, mount collecting, toy collecting. Sounds like you donât want to work for what you do. Play Classic WoW, you get so much for doing so little effort, raids with zero mechanics, sounds right up your alley.
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If theyâre really taxing, then donât do them. Just cleanse the corruption gear that you get, and the tiny ilvl difference in your cloak wonât matter.
Move on with your life. Youâre welcome.
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Except itâs a trend Blizzard has set and it shows no signs of getting better. Ignoring huge, blatant problems because, âitâll blow overâ is a horrendous way of approaching something.
Well other than the trend in the steady decline in subs (even during better expansions) and the fact they wonât report them anymore, yeah. We can make assumptions.
Who is it for, then? People who want to be kept busy with chores?
Yeah, letâs just ignore the bait and switch, removed features, cut content, forcing the update on people, taking away features theyâd been already playing with, greedy ToS to ensure no repeat of DotAâŚ
Critics also donât like it. The only thing it has going for it is the WC3 base game.
You mean other than pretty much all the original developers? Yeah. Thereâs also plenty of lesser known people who have left and come out and talked about how the culture of the company changed.
Ah see, I started out reading this happy that someone enjoys it and is explaining why⌠and then you started insulting me.
You donât understand how vanilla/Classic works, and itâs very clear.
I see. So all the players must be leaving here and heading off to play the other games that also donât report numbers.
For the players that enjoy the game. I donât have any issues with my friends and I still enjoying the game. If you donât like it anymore, thatâs okay.
I am going to ignore it. If this were a WCIII forum then we could discuss it, this is the WoW forum.
Things change in life, some people canât deal with change whether itâs a culture change, a game direction change, or a life altering change.
As much as I agree that the difference is pretty minimal, I donât think I should get a mythic raid spot over other people who are putting in time to grind their thing to the max. I got tons of negative attention for not grinding my AP level in legion. I havenât done serious endgame raiding in BFA because Iâm tired of another expansion of the grind.
neither do you, obviously. Youâre mad that retail has âchoresâ but think the grind of getting stuff done that you need to do in classic isnât a thing if you want to do stuff beyond questing. lol