So you’re opting out of the things that people care about. Don’t be surprised when people don’t care about you, when you’re not participating in the things that the community values.
That’s just how life works, you have to be useful to other people or they won’t find value in you. This is how it works IRL, this is how it works in game. If you’re not useful, you wont be treated as useful.
WoW community has always been hot garbage even back in vanilla. Other game communities would look down on you if they knew you were a WoW player. WoW players tend to be viewed as some of the most toxic and horrible people in gaming; right up there with FPS communities.
Having trouble finding Mankirk’s wife?
It wouldn’t be inaccurate so say that I felt a bit like one Ned Flanders did:
… except with the others not trying to be helpful so much.
I definitely reached a bit of a breaking point.
Then leave people alone.
Cramming down a list of junk they have no interest in doing down their throats only pisses them off.
I’m sorry but I only respond in paragraphs to posts that have gifs, over 30,000 achievements on a character, and look dashing.
I’m just explaining why your mentality is flawed, don’t shoot the messenger. I’m apathetic to you as a person, but as a player, your character is very flawed and you’re not showing initiative. You can get pissed off all you want, but if you don’t value the community’s metagame, you won’t be valued by the community.
People you don’t know personally don’t value you as a person, they value you for your worth to them. That’s not a WoW rule, that’s a life rule. It’s entitled and frankly stupid to assume that if you have nothing to offer, that you have inherent value to a group of people.
A paralel example of what you’re doing right now would be incels complaining about women. They’re poorly dressed and groomed, out of shape, have a bad lifestyle, have a repungent personality, and are repellent to any woman with self respect. Instead of realizing the flaw is internal, they screech on messageboards about how women are the problem, instead of recognizing that they’re doing everything wrong. Everything is a problem but them.
You need to realize that you don’t have inherant value for breathing air. Your objective worth is what you have and what you can do. You are the worth of your effort and skills, you don’t have inherent worth for breathing.
You still don’t get it, do you?
It’s not that I’m looking to be “valued”, or to climb some vaunted social ladder.
Quite the opposite, I’m of the position that the ladder NEEDS TO GO.
It’s being abused, and that needs to end one way or another.
The easy way is for the collective WoW community to get it’s head out of it’s backside and stop being so condescending and stop talking down all the time.
The hard way?
Enjoy the view from the top of the ivory tower when it comes crashing down.
Lol sure thing a 335 player with no gems and enchants is gonna bring the system down. I’ll believe it when I see it. I believe you’ll quit before you get any relevant progression this tier, just like you did in 8.2, 8.1, 8.0, and Legion.
People asking for help receive it all the time, but you’re focusing on the bad instances.
You’re not going to get 100% niceness asking anything on the internet.
Of course I’m not going to take the system down.
The system is rotten to the core, this was an attempt to try and fix it.
But if the WoW community doesn’t want help, all that’s left to is watch it all fall down.
It’s more than that, people have told him how to correct and fix his problems, but he’s plugging his ears.
It’s the internet man, not just WoW.
Hell it’s not even JUST the internet, I had a client whom I communicate with through the phone on a daily basis, she were the meanest person I’ve ever known, until we met in person for a few times and she’s like a completely different person after that, suddenly talking to me like I’m an actual human being.
I did get sick of it at one time but eventually learned its best to join in and make it worse. When in rome, crucify a carpenter.
Don’t forget the more casual, non raiding, solo or queued content only crowd that smugly talks down to the “elitists” about how they’re better than them because they have a life or whatever, ironically sounding just as elitist as they claim the experienced side is.
Condescension from all sides in this game.
that really is the most tone deaf (expletive) i’ve ever heard anyone say, they say it like they’re the only ones who have lives as if everybody else is just a waste, it’s absurd and incredibly insulting.
But i’ve also found that my personality of actually taking insulting things as insults and letting it affect me on an emotional level is a bad thing? or a weak thing? nowadays no idea so bizarre /shrug
I try to not take insults that seriously, honestly. I get insulted daily. You kinda get numb to them after a while.
Most common one? Dirty looks when speaking English in a country that speaks better English than some Americans. -_-
Tried a lot…but here are the issues that came.
Added many players to the friend list but never see them online again. Happened many times.
Joined communities but i rarely got response when I tried to host a dungeon, even though so many players are online.
With guilds…timezone was becoming lot of problem. Mostly they were offline during when I play.
Although…in the end I did get the dungeon done with pugs…but so far the attempts of building connection is failing.
Welcome to planet Earth.
And yes, even that sentence can be seen as condescending.
I think I can fix this:
Everyone re-read your own posts as if they where posted as a reply to you.
If you find yourself wanting to slap you. Edit the post until that urge leaves.
I have never encountered this when in game. I won’t say I haven’t run into rude or impatient folks, but I’ve never been told to “solve my own problem” when I’ve asked for help.
I sometimes feel like the “WoW community” is a mirror reflecting what the viewer expects to see.