stop shoving diversity cancer down our throat then.
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Most humans are the most unforgiving…
This is false. And this ranges up all the way back to when I was pug tanking in Wrath as a Prot Pally and BM Hunter. People would ask if players knew the fight and I’d straight up tell them that I didn’t and they would explain it to me. Never once in all the years of pugging have I been kicked for requesting information on what to do.
I’ve watched precisely that happen in pug groups in the more modern era. Someone asked a question in a pug EN group I was in, on Renferal, got kicked. Happened a couple other times too.
Then those players are stupid and again not the status quo. If I had the mentality that every single negative that happened in front of me must happen frequently, then I wouldn’t even be playing this game right now.
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Just saying, these days not admitting that you need help and might have a question generally is the safer option. You never know what will happen when you suddenly attract all the attention to yourself.
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People are nice, mostly, on my Oceanic Servers. There will be a few smart replies when someone asks for help or advice, but mostly people are kind.
I remember how it used to be a badge of honour to be kind and helpful, and people were respected because they earned respect.
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You’d get to avoid situations when someone says something like “Hey Kreivos you’re going to be the 3rd group on the right side for orb running for G’huun” because they would assign someone else. That’s much better than just shrugging and then running in blind and killing everyone.
I mean the 2020 gaming community in general is built by these kinds of people you’ve described. Hell even the developers are condescending nowa days. “Oh you don’t like loot boxes? K cool check out these loot piñatas” it’s all just a pretty toxic community in general.
“I’ll run orbs sure, but I’ve never done this before, can someone explain how?”
O.O
O.o
‘growl’
/kick
Doesn’t say anything and causes a wipe on the group
‘growl’
/kick
Both ways can be dealt with if you either look up a video on what to do or just ask for help.
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If I’m going to be in a kick-happy group, I’d rather do that than speak up in the beginning, because at least I would have gotten one attempt in and come out learning a little something.
Asking for help, like I said, puts a giant target on your back. And videos don’t really teach me much. I learn far better with hands-on experience.
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But if the video says…
“On both sides, you click and orb and then run with it. After a while you’ll be rooted and you can’t move. At that point you then use the ability on your screen to throw the orb to the next player who will then run the orb and attempt to make it all the way. The previous player can help out by assisting in clearing the way. And if they can’t make it the first player can be ready to grab the orb again and then turn it in. Rinse and repeat until the beam comes down”
There’s not much room to misinterpret there. Of course there’s not going to be the amazingly fluid motion but you’ll at least know what entails grabbing the orb.
My issue with videos, especially on long complicated fights like G’huun, is that they drone on and on and it makes it hard to remember things. By the time I get to the orb part, I would have forgotten the other parts. It’s just tough for me. But once I get into the groove of the actual fight, I have a much easier time remembering.
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The orb mechanic though is pretty much 60-70% of the fight. Phase 1 is just killing adds. Phase 2 is the majority of the fight. And Phase 3 is the burn phase while just avoiding ground mechanics while standing far enough from each other that you’re not killing one another in the process.
Also I found a video that only lasts like 4 and a half minutes. Not really droning on imo.
Videos teach a lot? But again, that was my whole point. If you watch a video, and then still need explaining, sure. It’s the ones who do not speak up and do not watch videos first that is the bigger problem.
Some people do not mind explaining things. I wanna know you watched a video first before you asked for help instead of just “I don’t know what to do and never seen a video on this” – I would link the video to you, give you time. Should you still not know? I’ll explain best I can or someone else would explain. However, not saying a single thing cause you’re scared, then failing? That’s an auto boot.
Now, if nobody asked whether everyone knew the fight, that’s something else, but in my experience most cases people usually ask “anyone not know this fight?”
I agree with the spirit of what you say here but lets get real dude. One negative person matters more to us than 1000 random people around us who aren’t toxic to us. I agree that Blizzard needs to do more to combat bullying and toxic racism in the game, but you need to do your part by reporting them for breaking TOS.
Also there is a trick that a lot of toxic players use. When they get into a GM conversation they say “That’s my discord buddy, I call him F**** all the time. I can show you right now if you want.”
So when you’re getting yelled at by these inbreds, make sure you clarify in a cringey way in chat that “I’m not in discord with these guys, and I don’t take what you’re saying as jokes. I’m taking it personally and very serious. I don’t know you.”
GM’s would see that and then they can get in trouble.
This is actually kind of the issue I have with this game and its community.
Far be it for me to be ungrateful to the dedicated players writing and developing videos designed to help me play the game better but why is it that I’m being arbitrarily forced to refer to third parties for this information when I’m playing a game that has all of the tools to tell me this information?
When content is new, I figure that everyone accepts that no one has done it before so there’s some growing pains but it gets extremely ridiculous when it’s several months past the patch; imagine being a player completely new to the game and getting s**t flung at you because you didn’t “watch a video” before deciding you wanted to participate in a high-end Raid.
Like the only people expecting a new player to do their “due diligence” in learning new content by watching videos are the ones who feel like their time is more precious to them than that of others.
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No no no, to do afking on mounts correctly it has to be done in Ironforge between the bank and AH.
Imagine people not wanting to wipe because new player A did not watch said video. Imagine the patch being out 8 months, even a year in and people still not having ever watched a video about it.
Exactly, your time is precious to you and my time is precious to me. Do not waste my time, I won’t waste yours. New players not watching said video, then causing us to wipe wastes my time, ten times worse when new players come into the raid, get asked “anyone not know this fight?” and not speak up about it.
Just wasting 19, 29, 9, however many other people’s time then. At that point yeah, everyone wants to kick new player A.
I could go into more detail about this, ready?
Imagine you have 1 hour left before time for work. You’ve downed 5 bosses, cleared some trash, you’ve now got enough time for a single attempt on 1 more boss. Everyone knowing this fight would make this an easily killable boss, which nets you 1 more boss kill before time to get ready for work. Now, new player A causes a wipe. There goes your boss kill that would have happened, had they known the fight.
Now, you have to pug that boss all over again after work instead of pugging from the next boss onwards. That 1 attempt that would have been an easy kill, had they just watched the video while you were clearing trash. So new player A just now costed you a kill, loot, whatever else you were trying for.