tbh there really isnt that much of a difference between feral rotation and dh. they are both simple. and there is no GCD management.
Arms has become harder than feral. GCD management is the new ‘complexity’ to specs in wow. Every rotation is simple.
Dh press blade dance and eye beam on cool down unless saving for adds that are spawning. Feral has a lot more to manage with tigers fury and snap shoting dots. Oh that reminds me havoc has no dots or buffs to maintain.
To me this makes them play quite differently
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I jumped back on my Druid and continued leveling him but I just can’t. The dots are so strong that it just makes me feel disconnected with the target. Thematically it’s a really cool spec though.
In classic… actually tons of fun shifting to other forms, healing, throwing out moonfire for the hell of it at times or to pull.
Feral on retail is mostly recycled crappy rogue mechanics, and super reliant on the right azerite traits, with a bear form criminally underused bringing little advantage over anything else and having to work twice as hard. Compared to the days where you were a viable melee dps/tank at the same time I just can’t log on to retail with classic feral such a blast.
I just want my bleeds to be scary again…
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I’m enjoying feral personally, especially in M+ dungeons. The AoE potential is absolutely ridiculous. Usually sitting at 35k-40k overall dps by the end of the dungeon.
Sounds like more of an issue on how you’re gearing and playing feral tbh. It takes me all of 2-4 globals to kill a general mob. Sometimes even 1 global if there’s a good ferocious bite crit.
From what I noticed, feral is extremely trait reliant. If you don’t have the right setup, your feral likely won’t see the light of day. It is very solid if played correctly… I mean I’m generally sitting at 35-40k overall dps by the end of most M+ dungeons because their AoE is so ridiculously good.
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The Ferals I see in M+ are absolutely crushing. They’re super rare though and I’m beginning to wonder why.
Ferals might not bring unique utility but they bring unique combinations of utility. I can’t think of another class with off heals, CC, brez, durability, and absolutely competitive damage that’s also versatile depending on spec. Only spec I can think of that comes close is ret, but feral damage should be better than ret unless cut of death is that op.
Idk man I think people are sleeping on feral this patch. Balance is obviously good too. Druid is pretty great right now. I invite druids of any spec really.
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People keep saying ferals are crushing, but when I ask for numbers they say 40k dps overall.
Everyone can do that, that’s intro pug tier dps with average sized pulls.
It’s basically on par with the mid tier m+ dps, not crushing.
We are talking mythic plus here. I don’t know what you are talking about.
Feral is fine in PVE content. You just have to put it all together and find your stride. My point here is that it isn’t a three button class. You can’t just pick it up and go. You have to play it through. You have to experiment, put the time in for the right gear and traits and it is excellent. It simply requires more follow through as it isn’t one of the brain dead Xbox classes that we have so many of today.
Feral is ok, but not great right now. At least in mythic raiding, with the movement and avoiding mechanics it is a struggle to keep a solid rotation and not have things drop off, you will not be in the top for parses, and hovering mid/low in the dps meters, if you are in the top above mages, hunters, locks, priests and shamans then it means the other players are doing something wrong.
I don’t enjoy the current state of feral, maybe blizzard will fix it next expansion, but after seeing feral drop lower and lower every year I am not about to hold my breath. But I am stubborn so I will still be maining feral.
What do you think I’m talking about?
You think 40k overall dps in a M+ is ‘intro pug tier level’ …? lol
Would love to see what you’re pulling in M+, seeing as all your logged runs are from months ago.
Except it is in M+? You hit Trash, Swipe until 5CP & use Primal Wrath, repeat. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out how to play it. Feral isn’t that hard.
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Tell that to all the silly people trying to use blood talons in m+ lol
40k DPS definitely isn’t pug tier damage lol unless we’re talking about mass aoe
Feral is very strong and people I key with agree that people are sleeping on it
45k overall with average size pulls as boomkin is the highest on regular dungeons, 40k is the norm.
highest 51k on motherload, again normal pulls, but that’s also motherload.
Most specs can do this, it’s not CRUSHING dps.
Nobody is SLEEPING on feral, feral is doing acceptable in M+, nothing more.
I think I see where you are confused. By overall, people are referring to OVERALL damage over the course of the dungeon, not a normal individual pull. That’s why it appears you are talking nonsense, because you are just off base from everyone else.
BTW - Feral is crushing it. I am top dps 9 out of 10 times against anyone and everyone the same ilvl (especially boomies lol). I get comments all the time about how no one ever sees a feral in mythic+ but after seeing me they want to gear one up. Feels good to be representing. Feral is a beast once you get it down.
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There is zero confusion here, when I mean overall I mean the entire dungeon as it’s presented by Details once the key is cleared.
I mean please individual pulls can range from the 50k to 150k+ dps, obviously I’m not talking about that,