Any older crowd who are not about pushing content playing?

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Honestly, that’s my playstyle anymore.

I end up doing AoTC because every guild that wants to do the level of content I want to do ALSO wants to clear heroic and get AoTC, but I really just want to do my normal raids, do my M0 dungeons (at current tuning, not S3 DF where I’d aim more for +10 dungeons for enjoyment).

I despise the M+ timer (hence the current M0 is exactly what I’m looking for there), I hate turning a game I play for enjoyment into a job (hence not wanting to prog mythic raids).

Basically I’m caught in a crossfire between the current LFR/Heroic Dungeon content (which is usually easier than I want to play) and having to organize for Normal Raid/M0 Dungeons (which can’t be queue’d for).

I’m half tempted to make the place I want (I’ve led guilds and raids before)…but then again I don’t want that level of work (again, I’ve led guilds and raids before lol).

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Never a fan of insta-kill mechanics even when I had full use of both hands. I wonder if they had limited some add-ons, would the mechanics for some of the raids be easier. I remember a higher up once saying they have to design raids now to anticipate people to using them.

I know when I stopped raiding in Cataclysm for World of Warcraft, as a hardcore raider, 7 days a week 5 hours a night you had to have certain add-ons, or you didn’t raid. One of them I remember during Wrath of the Lich King drew on the ground a line to the person you needed to kiss?

Tier 8 which gives Champion 603, but you get Hero level 616 I believe if I read the chart correctly from your weekly great vault.

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I don’t use any addon but there used to be DBM and another people used to use. If they are relying on people having addons to tell them they aren’t making their game very fair.

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Last night I was watching my hand motions/ APM fighting a T5 Waxface. And my fingers hurt from this fight. And the void boss with the 3x light powered floor mop. That was finger crushing

I don’t have much time to play anymore. But I’ve noticed my eyes are worse and things hurt.

I have to mix bag things like a WQ with a BG to rest up. Can’t just keep jumping into the chaos over and over.

Get up stretch legs. Give my eyes a break otherwise I get really bad vertigo after hours of intense gaming.

Over 40

:crab: :izakaya_lantern: :crab: :izakaya_lantern:

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I find I like to find fun little projects that would have been challenging at level but now, one or two expansions into the future, are fun and easy. I think it was at the end of BFA that I went back and did all my class hall stuff in Legion. Another time I noticed that I had virtually no fishing achievements and went back and did a ton of those. Periodically, I’ll look at gear sets and decide one looks good and go back and farm that. The same with pets and stuff.

It’s about having fun and indulging one’s “SQUIRREL!” self. To those who spend hours and weeks grinding out mythics when they are current I’m impressed with the skill set needed to do that but it’s not for me. I love that this game has things to do for all of us.

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I’m the classic definition of a scrub.

Bad Gear, Bad focus, bad DPS - Loves to adventure in the open world for whatever my nonsensical-self is after at that moment, which is subject to change without warning.

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Right, open beta player here and with breaks in between. Some expension has better then others in terms of finding a team and progression.

Some stuff gets more difficult. I agree. Namely: rotations the amount of things going on at once in raid encounters. It can be hard to keep track of. Pvp is bloated, nothing I can keep doing unless I go on Classic where is much more basic.

I will say the biggest mistake is embracing that you’re not as good anymore. With investment and passion and training it’s easy to push yourself as a player.

I won’t judge how anyone play, I post often in the forums like a straight, almost stubborn looking individual but after 20 years, the amount of things I’ve seen and been through and the state of the game.

I can’t think it’s healthy to keep playing wow with such attitude. Pushing myself for this hobby that as made about half my life has been great with up and downs and I learned from smarter people along the way and now I can say I’m a quite well established veteran.

Bottom is if you play a class and can’t the bottom passable requirement it’s bad and you should work on yourself. Tossing the towel is not the solution here, it’s only a hibderence that affect one’s mentality and moral.

People on older games such as EverQuest, Final Fantasy 11, Ultima Online, Dark Age of Camelot still play their game like they discovered. With a lower player base/count and seem happier because all the “toxic” have been since a long time and developers did content that’s more keep pushed a gold conflict / social gaming nights.

Now I’ll say it, wow has not wrong way to be played. If you’re happy doing pow end content and collect transnog and just gaming for that sale of gaming that’s entirely it shouldn’t affect anyone else. All I’m saying is sometimes, it doesn’t hurt to visit another landscape and exploring groups and going hang in voice to find people closer to our age.

It’s difficult, wow constantly have new players who are zoomers, the MMO rpg isn’t healthy so come and pick up this game because it’s a good product that push to try remaining evergreen with graphical updates constantly and forcing us to buy new computers.

The returners who come and complain retail too hard and wish it was a Wrath/Cata experience when game peaked and started to slow fall down. Their not doing themselves a favor either by not trying to adapt and get in the loop, imo.

So in the best I can suggest is to never drop the towel and that’s how you make it peace with playing and eventually don’t need to care about other players.

Just can’t trust anymore in wow when it comes to achievement or success. With paid add-ons / bots / carries / pvp auto kicker. Just find your niche and push with them and the experience will increase tenfolds.

Biggest mistake I see is that people are hesitant to be social. Can’t forget this is an MMO rpg and social aspect we create with it is half the gameplay.

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I am 51 lol, it is not like I don’t want to play. But I find it a waste, trying to get into the “hamster wheel” when 6 months down the line everything gets reset and you can start from scratch. That and I like to experience the game as Tank, DPS and Heal… and the game became super grindy where you always seemingly have a chance on a gear upgrade for everything you do. So you can’t really play more then one character. Thought the higher you get, the harder it is to actually get any upgrade and the grind becomes less rewarding to do.

That and nowadays seemingly the mentality changed greatly. I see people play one class/character for season 1 only to switch class/character for season 2. There is just to much movement in the class/spec area, some class/specs are unplayable in season 1 and only become playable or even super strong in season 2 or 3.

So just like you said, it is hard to find a good guild where there are people that consistently come online to play at times I can. Since I sit in west coast and most guilds seemingly come on at east coast times, I am screwed, lol.

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I don’t feel like PvP is bloated. But the issue is, it feels like everyone doing PvP is either a nub or they don’t do anything else the whole day then PvP. They come running using every addon that makes it easier, they run dedicated PvP talents and have the gear to boot.

When I go in to have some fun, the only thing happening is I get steamrolled, usually by more then 2 people. And if it is not more then 2 people usually someone with the perfect anti-class to the one I am playing comes or the person has a way higher iLevel then I have.
Not fun, so I stopped punishing me in there.

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Depends on the Pvp scenario but I will say however there zero when you can’t escape in a BG if you are somewhat any capable of having some skill set and reaction.

Sorry but sort of pretty much confirmed what I’ve typed.

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Pretty close to the same age. Been playing off and on since release. Never been to a mythic dungeon and haven’t raided since Burning Crusade.

If I have learned one thing from playing the game for so long, it’s that patience always pays off. Why deal with all of the bugs and time-gates when you can get a complete and coherent product near the end of a season/expansion?

Sure I am always behind everyone else, but I stopped subscribing to endgame and meta decades ago and have been much happier and better “rewarded”.

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32 here. I’m trying to keep up my gear to do some content like N/H raids and low M+ keys. I’m having trouble, tho. Too much stuff to do.

Also, I’m scared of playing group content. I fear I’ll die and screw up the group, especially in delves, where every death counts.
That’s a lot of pressure to me, and I already have too much pressure on me at my job.

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The first thing I do when I get spam invited to random guilds I say “I don’t do parsing and I’m more important than all of you.” If they kick me then I know it wasn’t meant to be.

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I find it amusing you think 47 is old and you are looking for the magical place of “old people”.

47 is not even middle age (close though).
by comparison I am 63, older than you, but by no means do I consider myself “old people”.

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Not really. If I jump into PvP right now then yes I would not have fun. But I usually research what specc is good for PvP, I take a look at all the skills and think what might be useful in PvP. I did play PvP from 2004 until 2015, not mainly and exclusively but quite allot.

So I do have allot PvP experience. That being said, you will always meet people that exclusively play PvP. They are also those people, that don’t need anything anymore, and just jump into BGs for fun, with full maxed Arena gear. Through that Arena experience they know what class can pose a danger to the class they play and what classes are basically fodder. Especially fodder if the gear they have is higher then the target.

Now I do not say I could not compete with those people, I could. But then I would need to double down on PvP, find Arena partners and push rating to get the highest gear possible. And I do not like to play PvP exclusively.
There are situations where you can’t escape in a BG, and you know it yourself.

I don’t find the game to hard. In every Raid I run I am the last to fail a mechanic. As for rotation being hard, for me all classes are similar.

A Beast Master Hunter might look easy because all you need to do is keep that Frenzy buff up, but Beast Master has other challenges then a complicated rotation/priority list, which is dealing with the stupid pet AI in fights where you need to switch target.

Compared to that there are other classes that are more complicated… but then are melee classes where all you need to do is stay behind the target and know when to evade mechanics. There are usually less mechanics to evade as a melee then as a ranged DPS, so that adds too.

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I’m 52 and have returned to college, so the time that I have available to play has diminished dramatically, and I can no longer devote as much time to raiding nor M+ as my raiding guild would have me do.

But that’s alright with me, and I’m attempting to be okay with being a casual, as I level up yet another 80 to continue the campaign and visit more delves!

Got Esteemed in Dragonflight and now with Warbands, I can retire the Main as the new reputations are shared, and play whatever class I prefer. I’m still hoping to revisit TSM and set up my groups once again, to get back into the goldmaking game, but it’s nice to sit on the Brutosaur by a mailbox whenever I afk to go get another coffee from time to time!

Goals? More pets to collect! LFR i suppose but probably only a few times through in the beginning of the week (weekends are out - that’s just asking to wipe far too much!) and WQs for the weekly caches, and leveling more alts for their professions!

And when the guild gets AOTC, join their Sunday runs to get it for the mount!

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I am older as you but my reaction time is still there. I have to continuously use the skill or lose it. I am still playing fast-pace games M+, heroic and the likes… like Uber Lilith.

What i dont have now is my athletic abilities when i was young… but my fingers for videogames are still very fast.

For this game, i am at my Casual pace although still being addicted. Now have 3 Raid Boss Kills, 4x M0 completed, 2x Tier 8 Delves completed. I still have time later today… but tomorrow, i have to treat my wife. :rofl:

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:raised_hand:

And it seems like any guilds that claim to be cool and chill are chock full of the min/max, everything below a +20 is trivial folks.

I want to slow burn progress keys (i e. not skip more than a lvl or 2 when progressing a dungeon), clear normal raid, and work on progressing heroic, pref with people that care to learn mechanics and play well.

Last raiding was castle nathria, we cleared normal, and started heroic…the 4-5 of us that were attentive to mechanics could no longer carry the rest of the raid that stood in everything, and people bailed after 1 night of heroics when we only killed 1 boss. It was pathetic.

I just pug when I feel like rolling the dice on who I’ll end up grouped with, most of the time I’m happy to just do random heroics for stones, since we need millions of them for upgrading gear…

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I don’t really raid at all, I have no interest anymore in scheduling my time around this game. I log on and try to do what I can, maybe some mythic+, maybe other stuff. If I have fun it’s time well spent I spose.

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I also use “Casual” to talk about what level of content someone is willing to do.
What term would you use to talk about the players who donʻt engage in the hardest content?