Any MoP Changes? Or will it be World of War(lock)craft?

Let me start by saying that I plan on playing Warlock. However, they are top-dog throughout the mid-end of expac with the data we have by a LARGE margin… Any balancing going to be done for other classes or are we just gonna see raids full of warlocks/tanks to cheese it all? Would really like to see some potential numbers balancing to bring other specs/classes in line.

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Hopefully not. Everything is viable.

And the freaks who min/max every little thing will always find an optimal composition no matter what ‘rebalancing’ Blizz might do. Leaving the game alone is the best thing the Classic team can do. I wish they had done that for the past 5 years.

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Of course people are always going to min/max… That’s a given. But Warlocks almost double a lot of other dps specs that are “viable” and thats just not right imo. You know this is going to create a FOTM (more like flavor of the expansion) situation that I don’t think is healthy for the game. But thats just my two cents.

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I’m going to suggest that this is being exaggerated by a dubious source.

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If you want to call warcraft logs dubious… sure. :confused:
I’ll give an example: Korkron dark shaman fight you have Aff warlocks doing over 2m dps, and lets take another multi dot class with strong aoe like boomkin for example, they’re hardly breaking 1m dps… Check the other logs for yourself :person_shrugging:

They have

They did some balancing for ferals and ret paladins during ulduar phase and that’s it. MoP is most likely the last stop for progression, the least they can do is make sure specs aren’t completely useless or over the top broken

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No spec is completely useless. The OP is just making up nonsense.

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Affliction is always going to over perform on multidot fights. It’s the majority of their damage. Balance Druids have dots but they aren’t even close to the majority of their damage

You also have to keep in mind that most top parses are from people deliberately crafting scenarios out of their whole raid to get the biggest number possible for one person. Pandaria is the expansion to play Warlock for sure, but I promise you “double” the dps of everyone else is not standard

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You have to keep in mind that every class will do that, not just warlocks… you have to know how to read warcraftlogs and see for yourself that they’re not just top in multi dot fights, look at ToT… Every. Single. Encounter. And its the same with SoO other than tank shenanigans… Maybe they wont double the dps in every fight, but they are MILES above the rest and its not even close.

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I can look at Warcraft logs and see the top warlock on Garrosh sits at number 96. They don’t crack the top 100 on Malkorok, Paragons, Blackfuse.

You’re cherry picking certain fights and ignoring others.

Every class and spec is viable. Blizz needs to keep their hands off.

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Notice I said “warlocks/tanks” go level and stop trolling threads that you know nothing about. Lowbie.

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Well if you’re going to be dismissive and passive-aggressive toward everyone then it sounds like you had your answer before you even made this thread

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I see when your argument falls apart you resort to insults.

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-said nobody who’s ever played MoP. Affliction is really OP on Fallen Protector’s in SoO otherwise, they are not THAT much better than everyone else.

Shouldn’t you be the one leveling? Level 60 Warlock.

That’s because Boomkin are underrepresented and Warlocks are overrepresented. What about Thok? Blackfuse? Nazgrim? Sha? Immerses? Iron Jugg? Paragons, if you’re multi-dotting in Paragons and not focusing the prio target, you’re padding and it shouldn’t even count in WCL anyway.

Most of T16 is single-target. Affliction is only the best when it can sustain multiple targets the entire fight, not just cleave a short add phase like Garrosh.

Tanks are never top DPS in any boss fight in MoP. That will never happen with two tanks taunting off each other.

You know you can use the quote feature instead of posting 3 separate times.

Warlocks as a class is the best DPS class in the game

Immerseus - destruction top
Fallen protectors - affliction top. Top aff lock doing almost 2.4m DPS, next class barely over 1m dps
Norushen - affliction #3
Sha of Pride - demonology & affliction #4 and #5
Galakras - demonology #3
Iron juggernaut - demonology #6
Korkron dark shaman - aff & demo #1 & #2
General nazgrim - aff #1 demo #4
Malkorok - demo #7 aff # 8
Spoils of pandaria - aff #6
Thok the bloodthirsty - destro #3 aff #4
Siegecrafter blackfuse - aff #2
Paragons of the klaxxi - aff #1
Garrosh hellscream - aff #1

Tbh, I’m just glad to see some demo representation. I’ve seen people say aff and destro are the specs to go and that demo is somewhat a meme spec in MoP. I’ve been demo since I hit level 10 in late TBC, so obviously I’m biased towards it.

Thok? Tanks. Top dps? Warlock. Blackfuse? Warlock. Nazgrim? Warlock. Sha? Warlock. Immerseus? Majority Warlock. Iron Jugg and Paragons? Again, aside from the tank shenanigans… Warlock. Wether it “should” or “shouldn’t” count isnt up to you sadly. Also, i’m not just talking about SoO.

You could also take the top 100 of each spec / class and get a median dps for them on each fight. And you’ll see how much warlocks are above the rest.

Also, these were mostly from 2014 when it was live. People now will find a way to break it, we have some private server data proving this. I’m confident we’ll see a bit of a different picture than these logs with more warlock representation come classic MoP.

See above.

I’m not the one hiding on a level 20 something classic char, I have 8 max level cata classic toons. And haven’t played retail since early Shadowlands…

it’ll be balanced with last patch of mop

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