Then Sylvanas escalated the war the most morally terrible way possible.
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There was no war started in Stormheim. Thatâs part of Sylvanasâ own sales pitch to Saurfang, âSure, we have peace now, but what about a hundred years from nowâ, and all that. She even refrains from mentioning Stormheim, and lets Saurfang draw his own conclusions about it. And the Night Elves only sent their fleet to Silithus after the Horde feinted taking their forces there en masse to seize it by force. After Bilgewater Goblins killed civilian archaeologists just trying to figure out what in the world is going on.
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Seize it by force? Silithus was not Alliance territory. Sending their fleet to contest it was an act of war. Anduin even confirms this in Elegy.
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The Bilgewater goblins had attacked first, in Before the Storm, so there was already tension. Sending the Alliance fleet being an act of war is irrelevant, it was done because of the Horde feint into Silithus, which was in turn done to march on the night elves. The Horde had already decided to go to war, Anduin just didnât know it yet.
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Itâs neutral ground. Much of Silithus was under the care of the Cenarion Circle. After their demise, itâs Magni and his crew looking after it. Magni, who explicitly told Sylvanas to stop the Hordeâs mining operations in the region, since it was making the Wound worse. So yes, if their actual plan had been to reinforce Silithus for the Horde, they would have to remove the Alliance and the Champions of Azeroth from neutral territory, by force.
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nah, i think there will be twist in the ending of BFAâŠ
likely is that all or most of the horde racial leaders will die or missingâŠwhich make the horde leaderlessâŠ
then Anduin, being the benevolent, caring, righteous leader he isâŠwill take over the mantle of warchief and pass the alliance leadership to othersâŠlikely Genn or JaniaâŠ
then Anduin will educated the horde about peace , honor, compassionate which are the trademark of the alliance and bring the horde to great heightâŠ
Iâve said it before, Iâll say it again. Alliance sending forces to claim parts of Sillithus is not a declaration of war. It may be a provokation, but not a declaration, because the Horde only controls a small part of Sillithus when the feint happens.
Assuming the Bilgewater controls a quarter of Sillithus (a generous amount to possess with their mining operation) and that the Alliance moves in into the remaining three quarters without touching the Bilgewater operations, the Alliance has not done anything to declare war. They would be daring the Horde to attack, yes, as a way to make them understand that they would not back down if the Horde decided they wanted Azerite that badly.
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So ⊠he has the Horde dead to rights ⊠and takes the shot? What exactly would be left of the Horde after that? What would be the outcome for the already deeply weakened, fractured, and broken Horde faction if the only thing/person really preventing the Faction from being eaten by the Alliance turns? Iâm genuinely not sure Alliance players appreciate the reality that Horde hasnât benefited from the net-positive influx of super-powered demi-gods; or the buildup of replacements for the off chance a character gets killed (which, for the Alliance, rarely ever happens with a character of note).
Your essential plan is ⊠the Horde gets destroyed, and replaced with nothing; so that one of the few peace-niks in this world can become more edgy and warmongering? CoolâŠ
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Youâre taking my suggestion to the extreme. The obvious outcome of this war will be both factions being equal again. My suggestion, regardless of whether itâs good or bad, would have the Alliance assaulting the Horde enough so that they edge them out in power afterwards, but at a great cost in other areas.
Not really a doomsday scenario for anyone.
They arenât equal. Youâre starting from a position of the Horde already about to break, and then Anduin pulling the trigger again. Not to mention, the Horde has already been tasked with being the antagonist in a war they are constantly told they could never win unless the Alliance was severely handicapped. Across several different ways.
If you havenât noticed, the Horde has not had the same influx of demi-god tier characters that the Alliance has the last 8 years. The balance of power between armies and Heroes has shifted so drastically that Heroes (that once tipped the balance against overwhelming odds), no require entire armies to just stall them out.
The Horde was already too weak to handle the story Blizz has tasked them with this expansion; there is now way removing one of the few remaining things preventing the Alliance from wiping them out (Anduin) would somehow balance out the fact that the Alliance is a HIGH-fantasy faction; the Horde ⊠a relatively low-fantasy one.
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Your personal opinion is irrelevant, though. Blizzard will end this expansion with both factions being equal, this is 99% going to happen. Whatever losses the Horde incurs this expansion, if there is any conflict in the future, they will be ignored and scores of Horde troops will be used as is necessary.
Our demi-God characters really donât matter when they are either nerfed or not used. We have a giant ion lazer cannon of death on a flying spaceship thatâs being ignored for the sake of parity. Not sure why you care so much about power-balance here, it clearly isnât a concern for Blizzard.
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The only thing that seems to matter is who wins and how.
And even then it is about its presentation.
Getting a vague reference in a dialogue in-game or in a book is nowhere near as satisfactory than getting a whole scenario about your âwin/lossâ.
Because part of the reason that the Horde is REQUIRED to use these extreme tactics stem from that harsh reality that they just are so much weaker than the Alliance objectively (and are yet forced to be the antagonists in another Faction War). The ONLY thing saving us at this point is the Alliance handicapping itself with ideology (and Blizz not just doing simple things like having the Vindecaar out of contact in Netherstorm, trying to repair Tempest Keep and bring IT (and their people) to their new forever home of Azeroth now that the Legion is gone).
It takes the Horde entire armies to even stall out an Alliance Demi-God character (and we never get to kill them); and we have NOTHING that even compares to them in our arsenal (with the exception of âmaybeâ Talanji and Thalyssra now). Is it any wonder that Nathanos was gimmicked to escape against SUPER-Tyrande? It doesnât feel good for the NEs, but Blizz has damaged the Horde SO MUCH on the representative front, they canât just allow her to go off one-shotting what few representatives we have left (even though ⊠she probably could).
Thatâs the reason I am obsessed with the Power Imbalance. A LOT of the problems of this expansion and story stem from that initial CORE issue. Blizz tasked the Horde with a role they were in no way prepared to fulfill; so in order to ensure they complete that role ⊠the Alliance needs to be handicapped like crazy (and thus, the story feels good for neither side).
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Sounds more like Genn Greymane and Tyrande doing something like that than Anduin.
Isnât he prophesized to go totally evil⊠or at the very least tell 3 very big fibs?
And most likely after that⊠split open like an egg.
I still believe that Anduin will be or hatch the final big bad in this expansion and Blizzard will redeem Sylvannas by having her be the key to putting it down.
TV Tropes has a name for it⊠itâs called Breaking The Cutie.
Idk man, I thought so too but weâre coming up on patch 8.2 and he still hasnât even started down that path. If they donât start sowing the seeds of his downfall soon, itâs going to feel rushed.
I assume itâs going to be all of sudden⊠like the splitting open of an egg.
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Remember, this is the writing team that teased who really burnt down Teldrassil when we got the picture of Sylvanas standing in front of the roaring fire. Remember the plot twist when we found it who it really was?
When you visit that ship as your Lightforged Draenei character one thing youâll find is that the matrix that the Champion labored to build on the Vindecarr has been stripped out. For whatever reason, the ship was stripped of itâs big and only gun.
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