An example for people that do not understand the seriousness of the layering issue

This was interesting until it turned into a weird “this isn’t just a game” sort of thing. Perspective is key here folks, the moment you lose that is when it starts to go off the rails.

Unplug, relax, listen to some good music, investigate that glowing yellow (it’s actually white but that is another thread) ball up in the sky that hurts your eyes when you look at it. Seriously, it really is just a game.

Are you implying the exploit happening now with layering has happened before? Because it hasn’t, not in WoW.

How am I the one being toxic? Again, you’re stating that since it doesn’t bother you, it shouldn’t bother anyone else. Does that mean if racism in the real world doesn’t bother you, it shouldn’t bother anyone? You’re literally imposing your opinion on others, and belittling those who disagree… who’s toxic?

Of course it hasn’t affected you yet, you’re level 21. If you’re naive enough to think that it won’t affect you should you choose to play this game long-term, then one of two things is happening:

  1. You don’t understand how the economy and social aspect of old school MMORPG’s work. If you’re a retail baby, I don’t blame your ignorance here.
  2. You’re so casual that you’ll never compete in high-end PvP/PvE, and are just a coaster in the game that will level extremely slowly and once 60, barely participate in anything remotely considered end-game, so the implications of an exploit like this are just beyond your grasp.

Whats retail have to do with anything? It seems to be the best last ditch effort to be toxic before you finally realize you’re proven wrong these days.

Absolutely true. Just trying to imagine someone so wrapped up in a game to the point where they go above and beyond the call of wierdness with it is really disturbing.

Weird flex, son.

Nellx wins the award for being the most toxic person on the forum today, second place goes to the wierd dude wrapped up so tightly in “our world”

Sorry if I view the game the same way as the original designers. But I think the general timber of the forums indicates that the Classic experiment will be a hollow one and you’ll be moving on at some point like locusts.

There’s the /concede we were all waiting for. Thanks for playing.

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Still paying at the end of the month but who cares. you can have whatever fantasy you want.

Hardly I just have a limit with dealing with people who are inherently inflammatory and toxic. You do you, bro. I’ll still enjoy myself over here :slight_smile:

Let me give this in a way retailers can understand

Lets say that Bliz added High Elf’s as a allied race.
The only way to get this allied race is to do a new instance on mythic and kill the final boss, and it is estimated by blizz that it will take 1 and a half months of killing this boss to get the number of kills required to meet the rep requirement .
“WOW” you say “it will be hard work but ill do it”
then one day you notice on week 2 that their are suddenly high elf players.
“WTF” you say “what ever ill get it too eventually”
then you find out those people use this new thing bliz added called Sandwiching and they “sandwiched jumped” back and forth to kill the last boss 200 times in one day.
Then bliz fixed it and now no one can do it what will happen to those that cheat
who knows? but you go on with your grind

you slack a bit because you know you will get it eventually but then bilzz says “hey all you guys and gals how’s it going we are during phase 2 of the high elf event” “now all the current highelfs get a special thing they can do, any time they kill a non high elf player it lowers their progress to unlocking high elf’s by 1 after all being as highelfs are rare it should be hard to become one”
so now your going
“WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH CLASSIC?!@?!?!?!?”

we let me tell you, what comes out it p2 of classic, the honor system
so now we got god geared people in full BiS till BWL running around who will hold R10-14 hostage while you with your some blues and green can’t do diddly squat.
But now you say
“OH IF YOU ARE GOANNA THINK LIKE THAT YOU NEVER WOULD OF MAKE THOSE RANKS”
nether are you, you can not catch up these people have the best gear, Endless Gold, endless mats.
This effects everyone, how do you ever hope to do anything worth doing if 100 or so people can hold the whole game hostage.
Who’s to say streamers won’t start threatening blizz to go on to the next phase sooner rather then later or they and their 1 billion followers will unsub.

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I really would love to hear how explaining that ‘everyone’s opinion matters and you shouldn’t judge them for thinking differently’ meets your criteria of toxic.

Should be an interesting viewpoint coming from the clearly toxic and opinionated person you are.

Prove it, post one one of your characters who you have 6 days played.

I have nothing to prove to you and prefer not to get guildies any grief. And I don’t have a character with 6 days played. That’s 6 and change between 2. They have 3 days played each. It doesn’t matter, because this is all ad hominem. Either the idea has merit or it doesn’t. I had a rank 8 mage in Vanilla. Does that give me cred? Do you need me to link cheevs? Want me to measure my epeen?

Yes?
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It gets awfully boring at the top. Somehow I don’t think the type of people who exploit a game for instant gratification are the type to stick around when it’s luster wears off.

It’s almost like this is an mmo where everything that is available (and how much of it) as well as what other people buy (or steal by layering) impacts the value of everything else :thinking:

This is a videogame. If it’s your life, you’re doing life wrong.

It’s not my life. I actually don’t have lots of time to play. But when I do play, the goal is to be immersed. I’m not just trying to do brain dead button mashing. Lots of games for that. Vanilla was designed specifically to not be that.

becouse, when he do find that black lotus, it wont be as valuable… since some people have flooded the market… think first, type then !

People calling for Esfand and Asmon to be banned don’t know what they are talking about. But there are others who are involved and deserve action. We’ll see.

I like them, but no one should be allowed to raid twice, in a week, there is a cap, Esfand knows that, they still raided twice…

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