LOL. How exactly were the Beatles “morons” when the Stones were far more outrageous?
Checked to see if OP posted on a raider, because raider loggers are the ones who seem happiest with the game, who enjoy the raiding “community” and tell us wow has the best raiding.
I was surprised to see that OP has done little in Shadowlands, and appears to have a main that has only done a little more. Not sure why OP went to all that trouble to write that wall of text for us when they don’t seem to be part of any community on wow and haven’t played much.
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WoW is still on top simply because it’s part of pop culture and how many years people have invested in it. There’s better mmo’s on the market.
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I’ve done 0 raids, 0 M+ but played hours per week (just took a 2 week break for personal resons but should be back on Tuesday), there is way more to do in this game than just raiding and M+
oh and … I Am Groot.
I’m honestly baffled on how somebody would seriously suggest that Fallout 76 is a better MMO then WoW enough to this be a common enough argument you see… 
Not while it’s under Bethesda.
I’ve listened to a lot of The Beatles songs and i’ve never hear much of screeching from them. 
It sounds like you haven’t spent much time in FF14. I can respect you have opionions that are different than yours, but most of your reasons provided are
As a player of both, I can say WoW has a LOT of growing to do to climb up to FF14’s levels of quality in solo, group, rp, housing (lol garrisons), community, and a sense of accomplishment from playing. Oh, and crafting… crafting is a sheer JOY in FF14, while in WoW its… so very very bad.
I used to only play WoW, and assumed it was the very best MMORPG out there. I patiently waited for SL to come out and… Well lets just say WoW drove me to start playing other games and I got to noticing that WoW is not an MMORPG, it’s an MMO with a few remaining RPG elements to it, bad graphics, and for the last eight or so years some extremely terrible game design. When I started playing FF14 in earnest I had so many “This is so much better than WoW” moments that I lost count.
While I concede that WoW does make a lot more money, that’s really about all it has going for it right now. We’re watching the game’s decline. It won’t die, not for a very long time, but it’s not doing great.
I’m looking forward to TBC… and that’s what one of Actiblizzard
s main problems is. Many people look forward to content from over a decade ago more than the new content. That’s not a great sign. The MMORPG genre is not in a great place right now until it get’s some innovation, and WoW has not had successful innovations in… a decade? They keep trying but almost everything they throw at the wall has been a bust… Dungeon Scaling difficulty with M+ is the only thing I can think of that stuck, and that’s in a bad spot now because of messing up fundamentals like loot distribution.
TLDR
I respectfully disagree that WoW is the peak MMORPG, because it’s not at it’s peak, it’s not an RPG, and other games have more/better gameplay.
These are my opinions.
I believe they are educated opinions.
You can disagree and that’s cool.
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Final Fantasy lets me dye my armor, has actual 3D assets on something like robes, and is a newer game in general with better assets across the board. You, OP, just don’t like the art style. Which I also didn’t like, until I stopped being like “ew weebs” and grew up.
FF does have a better story.
It didn’t go from small adventurer a part of x or y faction into MAWWW WALKER. It was designed to have you as the central hero from the start, so it all flows better and is much more cohesive. They have actual proper rendered cutscenes in the in game engine.
It’s literally a Final Fantasy game. But an MMO.
Most people don’t care about RP.
I stopped reading.
We’re playing an outdated MMORPG that lacks basic features like housing and dyes, while they continue to shove esports down our throats that don’t even belong in the genre.
They don’t even treat it like an MMORPG anymore. It’s just an attempt at an overglorified ARPG.
Sorry, but out of every MMORPG on the market, Final Fantasy is actually king for content and being an RPG.
I actually see it everywhere being praised on social media, with a ton of happy players. The social circles for WoW are just full of bitter players, ex or current, who just wish this game would be what it’s supposed to be.
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Literally all of my IRL friends who play MMORPGs are playing either Final Fantasy or Star Wards.
They don’t care about crap like MDI or AWC.
They just wanna dress up their character and go play in their house.
Things are literally that simple but Blizzard refuses to acknowledge it and tell us what we want.
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Who’s knocking T-swizzle? Haters…I bet it’s haters…you know they’re gonna hate.
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Where is Dawnspirit to agree with you, my Hypothetical Draenie Wife?
Personally felt like FFXIV ARR story and gameplay is pretty mediocre at best. The game does not being to shine until you hit the expansions. Esp if you’re coming from another MMO and trying out the game, ARR does a crap job introducing the game to the player.
Compared to how dated a cartoonish mmo would look as well? Who cares what the games are going to look like 20 years from now. I remember when playing some PS1 titles that they looked so realistic, come to the title now and it’s dated and looks like butt. There is an advantage to the more simplistic cartoony style of WoW, but you do sacrifice some polished looks for that advantage. So yeah, I think hands down you compare the two just look at spell effects or cities and compare the two. It’s fine that XIV “looks better”, I don’t really think you’re making a clear arguement here. It’s fine to prefer the cartoony style over XIV, there’s a part of this that is subjective and then there is the actual pixels.
Naturally, you have a much larger story in WoW. So, you’re going to have more opportunities for epic storytelling as well as the blunders. As I said before, ARR’s story I feel lilke was super generic and mediocre, overall though WoW is in decline. Some of the newer expansions storylines haven’t been all terrible. I am a Horde main, so my experiences are going to be a bit biased but the latest moment I actually felt something from the storyline was Saurfang’s death, NE capitol being destroyed was pretty awful but I’m not that invested in that side. Before that the last plot point that really hit me was Garrosh’s death. Varian and Vol’Jin was just kinda meh. And look, to reach those points - they’re repeating the same thing. Someone has to die, otherwise there’s no impact;. That’s not exactly a good sign for great story telling.
And lets just compared early SL with early SB. Antagonists - The Jailer and Emet-Selch. I loved Emet, quite frankly I think he’s one of the best newly created villians we’ve seen in awhile. Can you say that for The Jailer? We spent time with Emet and got to know this new character’s motivations and despite him clearly appearing to be the villian there were moments he aided the player and you couldn’t quite be sure - he very much embraces Loki in the MCU. What depth does The Jailer have?
From a quality standpoint, the storytelling in FFXIV is on the rise and WoW is on the opposite trajectory. Doesn’t mean XIV doesn’t have hiccups and WoW doesn’t capture good moments, but I do think it’s a matter of quality over quantity.
Sounds a bit contradictory . Personally, I think XIV’s is far beyond WoWs. The dyes are kinda lame but you’ve got far more options. Like I said before, WoW is on the decline. Are there amazing old armor sets? Oh god yes, but it’s also been around longer. Seems like we’re getting less and less sets.
Now, XIV does have quite a bit of things in the cashshop and thats a bit of a negative, but there is a part of the cashshop they do that I think seems fine to me. A good chunk of their limited time in game events that do provide gear/mounts you could get at one point free within in the game eventually show up during theemed events in the cash shop. I honestly don’t have a problem with that. They’re still putting in these events in game where you can get things for free, I have zero issue with you having to have played the game for that moment to get certain items and if you REALLY want them you can pick it up on the cash shop thats fine. It’s not all just exclusive cashshop only , but there still is quite a bit of that, sadly.
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are you clark’s alt?
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Personally, think the Beatles are ok, wouldn’t listen to them of my own free will but I’m not offended if Yellow Submarine comes on in the grocery store or anything. I tend to prefer more aggressive music, so Knocked Loose, Jesus Piece, Counterparts, etc.
On topic though, FFXIV does some things really well, but other things I just can’t stand. I like the classes more in FF, like how flashy combat is as well. But god do I hate the main story quest. It takes forever to get anything accomplished because of how padded with miscellaneous garbage each stage of the quests are and there’s no way around it other than spending $25 after the expansion is over.
That’s it? Remember that old infographic. I think WoW was like over 100 million accounts back then.
Edit: found it ~http://media.wow-europe.com/infographic/en/world-of-warcraft-infographic.html
Not to be pedantic but WoW Is more restrictive, where as FF Has a lower storage capacity.
Primarily because there are certain models that you just cannot mog in WoW for no particularly known reason, where as FF has been letting us do ridiculous nonsense from the moment the system was introduced.
However, with FF You have the Armorie and whatever 400 pieces you can fit in the Glamor chest to store for easy glamour purposes. Everything else is gotta be done by hand.
I have been keeping very busy in old content myself.
But it just seems strange that an apparently casual character who hasn’t done hard content on that account would post a series of opinions about how great wow is for hard content, how trash all other games are for hard content, and how amazing the community is.
You don’t knock J Lennon
I don’t knock T Swift.
Deal?
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FF14 has less storage capacity – for 7 different sets of armors available. Thats restrictive outright. WoW recording that and making it unnecessary to keep onto the armor makes it less restrictive because of that.
Sure you have 400 slots – but 400 slots to switch between 7 different armor types (more so for weapon slots).
I think you and I are operating on different meanings of “restrictive” here.
Anything that exists in FF can be Glamoured. There are many things in WoW that cannot be ,or if they can be, only for certain times of the year.
That FF has more types of Armour to pick from is beside the point. I’m talking about the fact that you can’t put the Starting weapons from the Turtle Isle in the WoW transmog system and that certain “Silly Items” are not usable.
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Personal taste is…personal taste. You can argue why WoW is more popular, has more players, earns more or some other real number. But “better”? That is pure opinion. OP is expressing opinions. I can’t argue.
But do I care about opinions? I’m only interested if I’m looking for another game. “Hmmm…let’s see what people think about FFXVXIZ.”