The closest thing we do have are the 20 most deadly Vanilla NPCs.
https://i.gyazo.com/0d5ee1e39a31d47c5be118b102ee3c03.png
Where it shows Drek’thar killing the most people because Alliance were getting to him at a much higher rate, as well as the Alliance archers having way more kills because they were stopping the Horde much more effectively
Says the guy with the map advantage and 99.9% win rate. God you Horde snowflakes with your condescending attitude that you rolled horde and are master of PVP and someone rolls alliance and is clueless is SO OLD.
Not the same game as your faction keeps whining about how you cannot pre-made when in fact if you want to use Vanilla numbers then lets use vanilla mechanics which were the same.
If you cant win with constant respawns capable of getting back in to the fight within seconds, what makes you think you win if you clashed mid field?
The biggest issue in AV with Alliance is people are trying to get their BIS item they found on a list for as little effort as possible. They figured out that GY farming HK’s accomplishes this, and stalling Horde as long as possible is working.
Every time, we clash with Horde at the start we win the fight. In fact each time we clash we beat Horde. For whatever reason Alliance just give, go afk or do something else.
With less and less AFKers Alliance wins are on the increase so expect Blizz to nerf Alliance to help horde keep their winning rate.
We needed more forum mods when the horde were spamming “alliance is using premades in AV”. It was tiring filtering through that drivel.
Because SHGY is a death trap and the alliance can only rez 10 at a time at any given GY, while the horde has a 20 rez cap.
That might be just a few of the different points that could explain why the Alliance is at a disadvantage, but don’t think too hard, it might damage your brain.
Horde rez 20 at IB?
Blizzard can’t post those win rates because they wouldn’t be able to justify the horrific win/loss rates we see.
As long as they don’t post the numbers they can feign ignorance and say… Everything is ok…
AB will be a premade playground like WSG is now.
Every AV thread summed up in one post.
Alliance: map advantage 
Horde: que times too long
I am all for moving the cave. move it, move it, move it, please Blizz. I can’t wait until they move it and the Alliance continue to get rolled. What will be your excuse then? Snowflakes cry and blame…it is not the Horde that are snowflakes.
Look within.
When they said warts and all it meant ones that were already there, not new ones that they created.
AV map is how it was in vanilla. Any imbalance that exists is authentic to vanilla.
Look within my @$$
You have a distance advantage.
You have a Rez advantage that’s been discovered because your cave razzes 20 vs a Gy that fezzes only 10.
How many advantages need to be pointed out. I am in games where the alliance are trying so your look within is utter BS. We have people defend SHGY and are PVPing. There is no defeatist attitude in the beginning. We have people who attack SFGY and IBGY. Your advantages above are real yet you refuse to admit it. if we lose IBGY, SFGY, and you capture SHGY, there are further advantages that even horde players say its almost impossible to get back. THEN the defeatist attitude rises, people either honor farm or afk out.
I play WSG in the 50s bracket and guess what? Alliance win and Horde win. It really all depends who shows up. If the horde mage PNT shows up, were in for it. He is good. Sometimes we have other really good people. Its very well balanced.
Yet in AV the horde win, what 99.9%? Please get over it as if the advantages are not real.
Sorry your purist comments about vanilla are not a reflection of what it is now.
In vanilla, as has been pointed out multiple times, both sides raced. So yes from that stand point it was even.
In vanilla, both sides could do 3-2-1, but OMG alliance actually are winning games, lets nerf that ability. So put that back and lets see what happens. I bet Alliance win again.
They made changes to the queue. More than once, which is not authentic at all. I don’t see you going on about that though.
I get it. You want to protect your ez mode, but you’re going to end up with nobody queuing on the other side.