is so a long time i dont remember the good version , but the one i like is the one with the big elite troll in the middle of AV 1,12 is really to easy 
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The 1.12 patch has already caused issues in the raiding/dungeon scene (not AS bad as some are making it out, but it still has). It will be disappointing for AV to suffer the same fate.
At the least pre-reinforcement will be nice.
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I hope this will include the chipper shredder quest at lumbermill for horde
Please bring back the old AV.
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As long as it doesnât result in the usual Alliance zerg to boss we have in retail.
I have to say Iâm a little disappointed.
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You sure do suck at decision making anymore.
All I heard and read about AV prior to TBC and WOTLK, was even before all the patch changes before the first expansion, and weâre STILL not going to get that experience back?!
Yeah, Acti-Blizz sucks with decision making anymore.
WTB vanilla WoW devâs for WoW Classic!
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â1.12 is the most complete version of WoW Classicâ
I know it can be challenging to see beyond what you want. Itâs not about you though
Itâs clearly not about you. These forums are for us to voice our opinions to see if we can get change. You know, like how we got Classic back, when people such as yourself made snide comments and battled against it.
Why necro this thread?
At what point did you lose your mind and assume anything in my post was about me or what I want.
Also,this imaginary reality where you believe I was battling against something. I wasnât in it. Leave me outta your fictitiousness
The problem with the devs is harder to kill npcs are better than 1.12 easier to kill npcs. It is not an improvement.
#devsdontgetit #easierisntbetter
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Umm heâs what? Is this pre-pubescent millennial speak?
its how WoW became what it is now , making content dumbed down and easier.
Vanilla was hard ,its meant to be HARD , give us the HARD AV , the everlasting AV .
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I started playing the game during WotLK, and I could swear I remember those being there then. 
AV was original described by Blizzard as PvPvE. So yeah, A lot of people really enjoyed the early iteration. I enjoyed that I could join at level 50 and give equivalent contributions by killing harpies and kobolds. Or the fact low level mages and priests could explosion bomb the enemy forces at choke points.
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And itâs still pvpve, it just emphasizes the pvp part more than the pve, which it should as itâs a BG. And while Iâm sure some people did enjoy the original AV it was so unpopular blizzard changed it many times during vanilla.
Classic isnât going to evolve. People arenât expecting new things on the horizon so the urge to hurry isnât exactly common place. I would argue there is less PvP because there is less to force people to stop and fight each other. Unless you get a dedicated small force to disrupt forward momentum, there is a lot less pvp. I had more fun in the 1.11 PTR AV than I could on live at that point because people didnât care to fight each other. On the PTR, that is all they wanted to do. Winning wasnât important. In the earlier version of AV, it wasnât as easy to leave one person to cap an objective because the guards were actually tough to beat. GY guards couldnât be pulled by just anyone either or they would get stomped. It actually required some team work and dedication instead of pure zerg.
Give us the original âCLASSIC â AV please so we can experience it.
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The problem is, why would retail use the old AV, but not Classic?
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