Just want to put in my opinion that I would prefer the earlier version Alterac Valley. I understand patch 1.12 is all that’s available in the code right now. It would be nice if blizzard looked into what it would take to recreate an earlier patch version of AV.
True, I didn’t like waiting hours in queue just to get in an AV, but those long fights are still a great memory.
please just leave herbs and mines in AV
Well thats a little disappointing, was really looking forward to the old multi-day AVs. Not the worst news I suppose.
If possible, run 1.8 and everyone will be happy.
Still no update. I thought we were supposed to be enjoying an authentic Vanilla experience… I guess not. Honestly without Classic AV, I really don’t feel like there is anything worth playing long-term in Classic. Sure, the raids will be fun, but the OG AV PvP is what made the game amazing. Changing that out for retail’s zergfest AV just takes away the best selling point. GG Blizz, you killed the game before it came out.
This is a very stupid decision. people want the memorable AV that lasted hours and days not some 5 minute BG , if you stick with 1.12 AV it will be a rush just like it is on Retail wow today that is what people want away from going into classic. I think the only thing they should keep from patch 1.12 AV is the cross realm BGS feature. check out This video done by Alexenusual on youtube. he explains it.
In case the pro-1.12 people still have not read it
BC baby here. Never got to experience the original. I would really like to play the original AV so that I get to see what I missed. Seeing everything that was different in vanilla is one of the biggest reasons for me to play it.
Imagine claiming that anything from the Vanilla timeline is up for debate, then claiming that the longest running iteration of AV during that timeline is literally “retail’s zergfest AV” and isn’t authentic Vanilla.
If it’s harder to zerg then it can be attempted and failed. Making failure a potential loss. PUGs may try and fail and realize they just potentially gave away a win to the opposing faction, this will act as a slap on the wrist.
When people are given a version of the game that is made easier to zerg they will always try to do it. It will no longer be an AV that serves as a continuous war zone instance like it was originally intended to be and was why making it to level 50 was such an honor because you could now finally fight along and against the big boys.
The option of whether players can or cannot zerg is not what the conversation is about. It’s about making it a LOT more difficult to do. 1.12 AV was made into a shell of its former self in preparation for TBC launch, along with other substantial changes that were made to the entire game. 1.12 is a good place to start, but as an open beta and day 1 player I can attest that when we fought in that war in AV it was a PvP paradise, the PvE aspects were brilliant because it represented guards and bosses that were present within the world. Pvp was always about attacking but knowing when and where you had the advantages based on NPC locations.
Anyone that asks for an easier or faster leveling/grinding/reputation gain is not what I would even consider a true Vanilla WoW fan. If you’re that kind of soul that just wants payout or the easier path then there are thousands of players in retail that share your vision. Guess what? Your nearly identical to 1.12 av is there too…
True vanilla players want 1.5. I know that statement will rattle some feathers but if you for one second think that you are helping by pushing this 1.12 narrative in the name of releasing the game early or for your own ease of use then you’re the problem that plagued the forums back in the day. You’ll find plenty of like minded individuals crying about portals being removed in retail. You HAVE a home and a community, true vanilla players are in here trying to forge that home in Azeroth that we lost.
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When were the resources added to AV?
Hey Blizzard, how about having both versions?
That way the little PvE racers can race and zerg to their heart’s content in 1.12, and the PvPers that really want a long epic battle can have it in 1.7?
Since both existed over the course of classic, it wouldn’t technically be a change.
Hey blizz. I love your game. Been playing since I was 12 (27 now) and I would love to play classic that I didn’t see. Please bring back day long Alterac Valleys. Every story I talk about with other people mention the classical week long AV. No other BG has NPC’s so involved (aside from Ashran which was really fun).
Patch 2.3, well into TBC’s lifespan.
I hope the team really does look at balancing the map. Having played as both alliance and horde, that map is considerably more favored towards the alliance team. Just one example is capturing the bunkers near Drek’thar vs the Bunkers closest to Vanndar and the alliance base. Because the Horde tower is a solid ‘tent’ it makes the archers not really come into play because they can be very easily line of sighted. Whereas the Alliance towers are open, making the archers much more of an issue to deal with. It would be great to see this battleground as balanced as possible.
Once again banging our heads on the wall with asking something different from Blizzard.
I hope you all get in 1.12 and hate it. Classic AV (1.5 Patch) could have been fun, but you can’t say that you wasn’t warned.
Dumb it down Blizzard.
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Nice, someone found a way to make guild recruitment even more annoying.
What’s the problem then resources are what ruined AV.