Horde need to realize how insanely slanted the map is in favor of them. Yes, in a rush to end boss meta the map favors Alliance, but have the ability to counter that by simply defending/recalling. (1) Horde is able to clear the field of strife and engage the Alliance for the first time by Balinda. (2) It’s hard to SHGY from Alliance side and easy to defend from Horde side, while the opposite is true of IBGY. (3) If IBGY is capped, the Horde spawn in the relatively nearby cave 20 at a time while the Alliance spawn at SPGY if SHGY is capped, which is at the end of a choke that the Horde can shoot down into from 3 sides. (4) The biggest map advantage the Alliance have (the bridge into SP) is easily circumvented by jumping up a hill. It’s possible for the Horde to lose the first engagement at Balinda but still hard cap Stonehearth GY, press the Alliance at IBGY and spare enough at SHGY to make it difficult for those killed at IBGY to get out to the field of strife to reinforce it. This isn’t because the Horde are just soooo much better. It’s because the map is blatantly tilted in their favor. The Horde are running down hill and bragging about how they win all the time against Alliance players running up hill.
What part of what you wrote has anything to do with this topic? You’re just spamming non sense because you got called out for picking on an avatar instead of addressing the issue. Great job of not contributing.
I’m pointing out the fact that you’re probably a Horde main who is leveraging a low level alt to claim that he’s speaking from an Alliance PoV.
You are attempting to dismiss anything I say due to my avatar.
You literally opened your post with “as an Alliance player” and then just said Alliance were cheaters. So I’d say it’s kinda relevant…you’re essentially trying to use your Alliance alt to lend credence to your opinion: “oh look even Alliance agree that it’s cheating!”
A human paladin is Alliance. I also played Alliance on retail.
You aren’t even high enough level to enter AV on that toon.
That’s nice, but also irrelevant.
You are either (a) a Horde main, (b) afraid to post on your Alliance main for some inexplicable reason or (c ) have 0 experience with the subject being discussed.
You are deflecting from the topic. Sore spot for you?
Nope, just find it funny that a level 30 paladin would post “as an Alliance player”.
Because paladins are alliance players… sheesh.
Ya. And also a very drastical change to the system because people wont be able to queue to play with a friend whom is at said BG. All that because discord exists and alliance is extremely low in pop. So honestly, won’t happen. Mostly because alliance no longer skip queues.
And you know whats even funnier? even with alliance no longer dodging queues pugs still start with less than 40. The Bg starts with 24 people and many of them are afk already.
i loled.
Btw Cross realm premades were quite common in first patches of TBC and Wotlk due badge system.
Easiest fix for all of this would not have unbalanced factions.
But blizzard will not do it lol.
And most ironical, horde can do exactly the same and gets several people on the same BG this way.
Ya man playing with 10 afkers, 3 bots and 2 fishers and 4 questers and starting with 23 players right now getting 40 when horde is at icewing is surely motivating. lmao.
Plus a severe map disavantage due the original AV design had conquered towers and lots of NPCs
There isnt a matchmaking system.
First 40 to join enters first and thats all.
Yes thats how AV works btw.
Twinking is considered exploit.
Thats why you cant have twinks whitout lvl activated, the motive they wont put most high level enchants on low lvl gear and why blizzard gives 0 exp to people whom party with twinks.
But you didn’t care about that amirite? lmao.
The intended design didnt have over 2/3 of the playerbase on a single faction.
So basically the minor faction use the advantages of beign outnumbered. Surprising i know.
Random queues are not random for alliance because we are too few in the playerbase. Even puging i recognize people in wsg quite often.
I would totally accept it as soon as they make it impossible to level 19/29/39/49 have enchants intended to 60 players. And also put XP in Bgs.
Since we are talking about changes might aswell go with the ones already in place.
Btw, av premades doesnt drop queues anymore.
Mercenary mode would fix some of the faction imbalance in regards to the queue at least, but there would still be players that would attempt to sabotage the other side while participating. It wouldn’t be a 100% fix, but it would be a move in the right direction.
He is trolling.
Surprise i know.
If such change would even be considered might aswell put reinforcement counts in AV and move horde cave as it is in retail.
And use the middle finger to laugh at classic wow too.
If they do this horde will only be able to honor farm WSG. Pretty much killing what’s left of the current AV meta. Actually now that I say that out loud it doesn’t sound bad, OH WAIT HORDE PREMADES DOMINATE WSG ALL DAY AND NIGHT.
Jaysus, you think these horde would have just the smallest bit of self awareness but they just don’t. No wonder. Horde keep complaining they’re just gonna kill classic PvP completely.
Saw an interesting Blizz response to this
That just seems like a form response to me?
Your point?